Joelinton

[ewerk 33857]

You don't. They're an expense.

[Alex 37583]

  On 05/03/2024 at 13:49, Howmanheyman said:

 

Danny Murphy reckons he'll NEVER be world class. He said it on talksport apparently, @wykikitoon must be slipping missing it? 

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I’d love to see the stats on how much ground he usually covered compared to Bruno

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[Alex 37583]

  On 05/03/2024 at 14:20, The Fish said:

 and deified by a man and his son in Cheshire. 

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I’d probably go for beatification at this point. Wait until he wins a trophy with us  

[Gemmill 51872]

  On 05/03/2024 at 14:41, Renton said:

How do you amortise wage costs like? So-called accountants. 

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[The Fish 11388]

  On 05/03/2024 at 14:41, Renton said:

How do you amortise wage costs like? So-called accountants. 

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Not his wage, his fee. 

 

£40m in 2019, £6.5m a year, add another 3 years brings it down to £4.4m a year, right?

 

Couldn't remember how long his deal was so googled

 

 

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[Howay 12496]

  On 05/03/2024 at 15:33, The Fish said:

Not his wage, his fee. 

 

£40m in 2019, £6.5m a year, add another 3 years brings it down to £4.4m a year, right?

 

Couldn't remember how long his deal was so googled

 

 

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He pretty much has no book value by this point, but yeah any that’s left would be amortized over the length of the new deal. It’s part of the reason Chelsea started giving contract extensions to players who had just signed like Enzo Fernandes, iirc they added a year to his deal shortly after he signed which would have lowered his yearly cost. 

[Renton 24315]

  On 05/03/2024 at 14:54, ewerk said:

You don't. They're an expense.

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  On 05/03/2024 at 15:33, The Fish said:

Not his wage, his fee. 

 

£40m in 2019, £6.5m a year, add another 3 years brings it down to £4.4m a year, right?

 

Couldn't remember how long his deal was so googled

 

 

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Well aye, why are we paying a fee for our own player? His previous signing on fee will already be amortised surely. Anyway, I'll leave it to the bean counter nerds. 

 

[The Fish 11388]

  On 05/03/2024 at 16:24, Renton said:

 

 

Well aye, why are we paying a fee for our own player? His previous signing on fee will already be amortised surely. Anyway, I'll leave it to the bean counter nerds. 

 

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Team buys player X for £80m and gives them a 4 year contract. So that initial fee is spread over the length of the 4yr contract, at £20m a year. That £20m comes off each years accounts and as such is marked against their FFP allowance to fall within £105m over 3yrs. Say, for this example it takes them to their limit.

 

1 year in, the remaining amount of that initial fee to be amortised is £60m (£20m a year), but then that contract is extended by 3 years. So the remaining amount to be spread over 6yrs is £60m, or £10m a year and halving the FFP burden of that transfer. Leaving £10m free in their FFP accounts

 

Which would allow the club to buy a £40m player on a 4yr deal and stay within FFP boundaries.

 

 

[Renton 24315]

  On 05/03/2024 at 17:22, The Fish said:

 

 

Team buys player X for £80m and gives them a 4 year contract. So that initial fee is spread over the length of the 4yr contract, at £20m a year. That £20m comes off each years accounts and as such is marked against their FFP allowance to fall within £105m over 3yrs. Say, for this example it takes them to their limit.

 

1 year in, the remaining amount of that initial fee to be amortised is £60m (£20m a year), but then that contract is extended by 3 years. So the remaining amount to be spread over 6yrs is £60m, or £10m a year and halving the FFP burden of that transfer. Leaving £10m free in their FFP accounts

 

Which would allow the club to buy a £40m player on a 4yr deal and stay within FFP boundaries.

 

 

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[The Fish 11388]

  On 05/03/2024 at 17:23, Renton said:

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Long story short, you pay for a transfer fee in instalments across the length of their contract. Extend the length of contract, you reduce the amount you account for each time.

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[ewerk 33857]

  On 05/03/2024 at 17:22, The Fish said:

 

 

Team buys player X for £80m and gives them a 4 year contract. So that initial fee is spread over the length of the 4yr contract, at £20m a year. That £20m comes off each years accounts and as such is marked against their FFP allowance to fall within £105m over 3yrs. Say, for this example it takes them to their limit.

 

1 year in, the remaining amount of that initial fee to be amortised is £60m (£20m a year), but then that contract is extended by 3 years. So the remaining amount to be spread over 6yrs is £60m, or £10m a year and halving the FFP burden of that transfer. Leaving £10m free in their FFP accounts

 

Which would allow the club to buy a £40m player on a 4yr deal and stay within FFP boundaries.

 

 

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The flip side is that any player extending their contract is likely to want a signing on bonus and increased wages which adds to costs.

[aimaad22 4913]

Now only if there was an ICAEW member around to demistfy all this

[The Fish 11388]

  On 05/03/2024 at 17:28, ewerk said:

The flip side is that any player extending their contract is likely to want a signing on bonus and increased wages which adds to costs.

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Sure, but not as much as the cost of the fee, right?

[aimaad22 4913]

  On 05/03/2024 at 17:28, ewerk said:

The flip side is that any player extending their contract is likely to want a signing on bonus and increased wages which adds to costs.

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The recently applied 5 year limit for amortisation would apply to extensions as well right? So if a 5 year contract was down to 3 years but you gave the player a 2 year extension, it wouldn't be amortized over 5 years again?

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[Gemmill 51872]

  On 05/03/2024 at 17:31, aimaad22 said:

Now only if there was an ICAEW member around to demistfy all this

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[Gemmill 51872]

One of the all time great gifs.

 

[ewerk 33857]

  On 05/03/2024 at 17:33, The Fish said:

 

Sure, but not as much as the cost of the fee, right?

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Depends. If Joelinton is looking an increase from £45k to £110k then that’s over £3m a season.

[Toonpack 11969]

ICAEW ???

 

Incredibly Conceited Accountants Excel Wankathon

 

[Anorthernsoul 1222]

Great to see Big Joe signed off for another 3 years. A big player in our midfield, which has been very much highlighted since his injury. I think Eddie's comments about getting it all sorted ASAP tells you how important he is for us and our immediate future!

[ewerk 33857]

 

  On 05/03/2024 at 17:39, Gemmill said:

 

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[Guest MrRaspberryJam]

The big bastard is staying.

[Dr Gloom 24124]

  On 09/04/2024 at 11:00, MrRaspberryJam said:

The big bastard is staying.

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[Tdansmith 3260]

Fucking Get In !!!!!

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