essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Ashley or Charnley. They might as well have left a note stating their plans with Rafa having the choice of ticking the Yes I accept box or No I don't accept box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13873 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Absolutely nothing gets done when Charnley is involved. He’s not daft. Well, he is but he’s not daft when it comes to doing daft things. If you follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9780 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 5 hours ago, trooper said: Newcastle managing Director Lee Charnley has been tasked by owner Mike Ashley to lead negotiations with Benitez, Sky Sports News understands. He’ll make Rafa leave and claim they had a good meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42459 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Isegrim said: He’ll make Rafa leave and claim they had a good meeting. ( imagine having to discuss your working future with that…). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 He’s usually the man Mike sends in the ensure the deal isn’t made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 I think Ashley is a fat fucking idiot who surrounds himself with sycophantic fat fucking idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
111180sak 9 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Rafa wants to stay Ashley wants him to stay, Rafa wants Ashley he has even the slightest bit of ambition for Nufc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42459 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 I think you a word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 If Ashley wanted him to stay he’d have turned up imo. Losing Rafa could potentially shave hundreds of millions off the possible selling price his asset, as well as missing out on his future bleeding of club profits from PL money. He’s a complete chancer, and will now try and get a manager on lower wages with far less ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2967 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 7 hours ago, sammynb said: The cunt has no intentions of trying to retain Rafa. Look at his track record, he's a proven liar. Ashley and everything associated with him should be burnt to the ground. Somebody, ANYBODY, put whole ghost peppers in his and their curry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30620 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 It’s a power thing imo. Gain the upper hand by showing him that he’s not even worthy of your time. The same sort of thing as treating a woman like shit so she’s desperate to be with you. Might work with a 50 year old boiler with six kids by seven dads but not with a 6ft blonde supermodel with 36DD tits. And Rafa is our 6ft blonde supermodel with 36DD tits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2967 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 But. Ashley has bigger tits! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 4 hours ago, ohhh_yeah said: But. Ashley has bigger tits! One of them being Charnley 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 My old boss used to believe the best way to conduct a negotiation was to send someone like Charnley in first with a set of parameters. If he can come to terms, great. If not, a further meeting can be organised with Ashley, who essentially becomes an escalation point. It basically gives two chances to come to a deal. Not saying that's what is happening, but its the kind of game playing I've seen before if it is. If Ashley goes into the first one, there can be no escalation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30620 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 And of course that may work in certain situations but when the aim of the meeting is to retain your biggest asset who can simply walk away in a couple of weeks I think you're best to not play games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) Truthfully I'm not 100% sure I even credit Ashley with enough intelligence to do it. Maybe he's made it Charnley in order to avoid personally implicating himself in the failure, who knows. Edited May 17, 2019 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Bit of a weird dynamic because Charnley answers to Rafa. Mike said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 Rafa said he speaks to Charnley nearly every week. Reading between the lines Ashley virtually blanked Rafa in the dressing room on Sunday. Rafa "He said he said thankyou to the team he was speaking to the players" Rafa could have said "He thanked me & the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 What a joke, the club should be on their knees offering whatever he demands. That is a club run with an ounce of ambition that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Avoid relegation. Plan A. Fat Man isn't interested in a plan B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted May 18, 2019 Author Share Posted May 18, 2019 This from Caulkin Having spoken to numerous people, this is my understanding of #Nufc / Benítez talks. He, Ashley & Charnley met in London on Thurs afternoon. There was no 2nd meeting yesterday, but nor was there supposed to be. Talks are still taking place, but remotely (IE phone, email). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Kind of what you'd expect isn't it? The only ways that was going to be resolved straight away was either total agreement to Benitez's requests, or "um, Mr Ashley says, um, we, um, are going to, um, go a different, um, way, um, thanks though". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted May 18, 2019 Author Share Posted May 18, 2019 29 minutes ago, The Fish said: Kind of what you'd expect isn't it? The only ways that was going to be resolved straight away was either total agreement to Benitez's requests, or "um, Mr Ashley says, um, we, um, are going to, um, go a different, um, way, um, thanks though". Cant help but think this is Ashley's easy way out now they're only conversing via phone & e mail. I would have thought they'd get something so important sorted face to face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 1 minute ago, trooper said: Cant help but think this is Ashley's easy way out now they're only conversing via phone & e mail. I would have thought they'd get something so important sorted face to face Why though? Ashley doesn't give a shit about the club beyond using it at a billboard for his one true love. If Charnley can sort out the pesky business of tying down a manager that guarantees footfall, guarantees Premier League survival and guarantees wider attention than some no mark would, Ashley will be happy as a clam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted May 18, 2019 Author Share Posted May 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, The Fish said: Why though? Ashley doesn't give a shit about the club beyond using it at a billboard for his one true love. If Charnley can sort out the pesky business of tying down a manager that guarantees footfall, guarantees Premier League survival and guarantees wider attention than some no mark would, Ashley will be happy as a clam. Its Charnley though mate he'll still have to run everything past his master he wouldn't dare make a decision by himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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