The Fish 10857 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 13 hours ago, trooper said: We keep getting sucked back in to the relegation fight. We don't seem to be able to put clear water between us. Admittedly we're 6 points from the bottom 3 fucking hell man. Beaten by the better side yesterday. They defended well, (9 blocks!), and we couldn't get a grip on the midfield. They were both diving shits and dirty cunts, but the penalty was the correct call, as was the freekick that lead to it. So it's not like we were cheated of points or owt. Defensively really poor and especially Manquillo and Schar on the right hand side. That right flank is definitely being targeted by opposition managers, which is surprising when we've got a right winger who's a bit of a madhead playing left wing back. Meh, we're safe, got a fairly soft run in and an away day to Craven Cottage to enjoy on the final day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Very well summed up. Not so sure about us being safe though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33234 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Two wins out of nine would probably have us safe. Are Cardiff going to win four and overturn our goal difference? Tbh I'd hope for maybe three wins and a few draws. We'll be alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) 21 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said: Perez needs 5 chances for every goal ffs Mitrovic, who you defend, has scored 1 goal per 9.5 shots this season. Just sayin' Edit: Perez's actual conversion is 1 goal per 8 shots Edited March 3, 2019 by TheGingerQuiff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, TheGingerQuiff said: Mitrovic, who you defend, has scored 1 goal per 9.5 shots this season. Just sayin' Edit: Perez's actual conversion is 1 goal per 8 shots Love stats like that. Where’s it from? I’d like to compare that against other premier league strikers Edited March 3, 2019 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Love stays like that Where’s it from? I’d like to compare that against other premier league strikers I used whoscored.com multipled their games played by shots per game and divided by no of goals. Probably an easier way though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7030 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 18 hours ago, TheGingerQuiff said: Mitrovic, who you defend, has scored 1 goal per 9.5 shots this season. Just sayin' Edit: Perez's actual conversion is 1 goal per 8 shots You and Alex have your own little anti-Mitrovic support group going on. Just sayin' Doesn't change the fact that Perez spends more time shanking chances and feigning injury than he does contributing to our attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 It’s the group of people who rate him which is (unsurprisingly) small tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7030 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 It's apples and oranges tbf. If they were both in the same starting XI, being fed balls by the same players then the stats would be comparable. Fulham are fucking woeful though and Mitrovic is feeding on scraps most games, balls launched at his head for 90mins. Although you already knew that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 You rated Steven Taylor, man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7030 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 In his early days at the club, 12 years ago, yes. Let it go man Alex, you're too old to be this bitter Just stick me on ignore if I annoy you that much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 There are two types of people in this world: people who rate Mitrovic and people who know nothing about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 So Mitrovic is feeding on scraps but Perez hasn't been? I thought your argument for Fulham being shit was that their defence was shit, and that it was ludicrous to blame the attack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 You love to kid on I hate you for some reason, J. Perhaps you think it makes you seem more interesting or something. I genuinely don’t see how people think Mitrovic and Rondon are the same. He’s like Rondon without the work rate or mobility. Neither are particularly good finishers but it’s obvious to me who gave our set up a better option. I don’t see the point about Fulham because it’s not like we’ve created loads of chances this season in many games. Prior to Almiron coming in I’d be surprised if we created more chances than Fulham. I actually liked Mitrovic at first and defended him and wanted him to do well but he just isn’t a good premier league centre forward imo. He’s probably another one of those players who look too good For the Championship but can’t cut it when they make the step up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, ewerk said: There are two types of people in this world: people who rate Mitrovic and people who know nothing about football. I’ll trust Rafa’s judgement over yours and Noelie’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 The thing about J69 is he's in here defending Mitrovic who has admitted to leaving the club because he didn't want Rafa telling him to be more mobile, and is calling Shelveys a lazy shit in another thread despite him actually responding positively to Benitez's coaching. He lost a stone in the summer after Benitez took over iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 And Shelvey’s been 10x the player for NUFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 Can we not just agree that Mitrovic isn't the next Ronaldo. Neither is he dog shit. He wasn't a hard enough worker for Rafa's system but he is a decent goal scorer. Given the choice between having Mitro or Rondon in the team then the latter is the obvious choice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Decent goal scorer with a worse conversion rate than Ayoze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 No 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Nitro will score goals but he’s the wrong player for Rafa’s system. Rondon a much better fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17275 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Don't think Rondon is much better than post Robson era Shola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: Nitro will score goals but he’s the wrong player for Rafa’s system. Rondon a much better fit Perfectly summed up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Two seasons, two relegations by the looks of it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 If we'd tried again to play a formation to suit Mitrovic we would have been relegated this season too. I don't necessarily subscribe to any theory that this makes him shite though. He's just not good enough to cover a team that has a load of average players in it. I think he could actually do ok for a mid level sort of premier league team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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