David Kelly 1260 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 The second episode of the new season of Black Mirror is mildly horror. Not what you would call scary but (as always with Black Mirror) some good ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6815 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Ep 3 was great TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14021 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I have no idea. I did rather enjoy it though I'm a fan of his music but i wasn't aware his latest record was also a film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22108 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Chem Trails are real tbf The floating bit in space where everybody's creativity is stored on the other hand .... Hold on, is our resident mental health specialist really saying here that our government is poisoning our minds through the release of chemicals from aeroplanes? Really? Fucking hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Black Mirror season 3 is probably favourite thing i've seen this year. Up there with Stranger Things. Episode 6 is brilliant and not looked it up but wouldn't be surprised if the sync music was done by the same people who did Utopia. Great TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7209 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Some were better than others. 1 and 4 were the best for me, then episode 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Watched Going Clear and My Scientology Movie recently. Really liked both of them. I didn't really know anything about Scientology other than the links with Cruise and Travolta so it's interesting to find out more about what they actually are. Which seems to be a (at the top level at least) bunch of loons running some sort of cult. I can't understand how they ever managed to get themselves classified as a religion as even at its best, it's really nothing more than a self help program as far as I can see. Of course the fact that they're so secretive makes it very difficult to get much information on what they actually believe. Cruise comes across as a right loon in that video there is of him talking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4431 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 The classification of religion is down to adherent numbers rather than degrees of lunacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7209 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 L.Ron Hubbard basically started it up as a big Ponzi scheme but when he died David Miscavige took the opportunity to turn it into a cult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4431 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 L.Ron Hubbard basically started it up as a big Ponzi scheme but when he died David Miscavige took the opportunity to turn it into a cultMuch like methodism and the Mormons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Doesn't there have to be some form of worship for deity in a religion? From what I can gather about Scientology, there's a belief that there's some aliens who brought sentient life to this planet and live on as a sort of soul through ever person born (not sure how they account for population growth) but there's no suggestion of worship of them. And your entry level Scientologist doesn't even get to find out about this anyway. You have to spend thousands getting to level whatever before LRH's fiction is disclosed to you. I loved Paul Haggis recounting his reaction to getting to the level where he was told about the aliens. You would think that a lot of people would have the same reaction and just fuck it off right there and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35704 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Doesn't there have to be some form of worship for deity in a religion? Not necessarily, take Buddhism for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5380 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Not necessarily, take Buddhism for example. Buddhism does nod towards that though, doesn't it? Buddha himself appears to be deified as far as I can tell from my wanderings through China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35704 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 As I understand it (and I don't especially, if I'm being honest) it's more about a journey to personal enlightenment than worshipping Buddha himself, although the statues and so on do give him a status you could equate with being a deity I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22293 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Religious Education 101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Aye I'm by no means up on religion but I'd assumed Buddha was some form of deity like God or Allah. Maybe it's just that my own experience is only Christian (and even then I have no religious beliefs myself and I've never seen any evidence of any in my family) so I just assumed all other religions have something similar. The nearest Scientology has to seems to be Hubbard himself. I suppose if you believe Jesus ever really existed, you could say that LRH was no different to him (in a teaching the religion sense) and it's only the passage of time that lends him more weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5380 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Aye I'm by no means up on religion but I'd assumed Buddha was some form of deity like God or Allah. Maybe it's just that my own experience is only Christian (and even then I have no religious beliefs myself and I've never seen any evidence of any in my family) so I just assumed all other religions have something similar. The nearest Scientology has to seems to be Hubbard himself. I suppose if you believe Jesus ever really existed, you could say that LRH was no different to him (in a teaching the religion sense) and it's only the passage of time that lends him more weight. There's a worrying vision of the future if ever there was one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5380 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 As I understand it (and I don't especially, if I'm being honest) it's more about a journey to personal enlightenment than worshipping Buddha himself, although the statues and so on do give him a status you could equate with being a deity I suppose. Yeah I've heard it described more as a 'way of life' sort of thing too in truth. Does that mean it's a religion after all then? Might that not make it simply a philosophy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35704 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Yeah I've heard it described more as a 'way of life' sort of thing too in truth. Does that mean it's a religion after all then? Might that not make it simply a philosophy? I suppose it's arguable it's both or either. I think the Buddhists like it to be class as a religion in countries where that carries tax benefits though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 There's a worrying vision of the future if ever there was one. You would think the cost of becoming a scientologist would keep it from the masses enough to prevent it ever become anything major. I'd also like to think as species we have less need to follow such things. But I suspect that's wishful thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 I suppose it's arguable it's both or either. I think the Buddhists like it to be class as a religion in countries where that carries tax benefits though Well the tax benefits seem to be only real factor of concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35704 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 What I want to know is - who created the aliens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35704 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Did anyone ever see this btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22293 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 wtf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Interesting. Was that from the Panorama on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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