Gemmill 44851 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Similar theme, nice backpacking holiday goes a little awry in Eastern Europe. My holiday options are getting more and more limited, got to stop watching these movies. Apparently Wolf Creek is loosely based on the Joanna Leese story, very fucking loosely, obviously. 110285[/snapback] Ahh right. Will get to see Hostel at some point too then. I would have chinned that gallah on Wolf Creek like, and no mistake. The story itself was a total fabrication loosely based as you say on the fact that people go missing in the outback wasn't it. Its release was banned in the Northern Territories while the Falconio case was going on in case it prejudiced anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Ahh right. Will get to see Hostel at some point too then. I would have chinned that gallah on Wolf Creek like, and no mistake. The story itself was a total fabrication loosely based as you say on the fact that people go missing in the outback wasn't it. Its release was banned in the Northern Territories while the Falconio case was going on in case it prejudiced anyone. 110293[/snapback] The only thing I felt let down by was when she could have finished the job, I don't care what kind of state I could be in, I would not have missed that opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44851 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Ahh right. Will get to see Hostel at some point too then. I would have chinned that gallah on Wolf Creek like, and no mistake. The story itself was a total fabrication loosely based as you say on the fact that people go missing in the outback wasn't it. Its release was banned in the Northern Territories while the Falconio case was going on in case it prejudiced anyone. 110293[/snapback] The only thing I felt let down by was when she could have finished the job, I don't care what kind of state I could be in, I would not have missed that opportunity. 110297[/snapback] Aye I know what you mean. I would have mashed his heed in with the rifle butt. Useless lezza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 V for vendetta. total rip of 1984 mixed with a bit of 911 paranoia. failure to launch - rom com tosh 16 blocks - really enjoyed it, good film big trouble in little china - classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Dark Water What a fucking awful film Not scary, not well-written, completely un-original and poor acting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Dark Water What a fucking awful film Not scary, not well-written, completely un-original and poor acting. 110532[/snapback] Which one? I quite enjoyed the Japanese one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Dark Water What a fucking awful film Not scary, not well-written, completely un-original and poor acting. 110532[/snapback] Which one? I quite enjoyed the Japanese one. 110534[/snapback] The non-japanese one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Dark Water What a fucking awful film Not scary, not well-written, completely un-original and poor acting. 110532[/snapback] Which one? I quite enjoyed the Japanese one. 110534[/snapback] The non-japanese one. 110537[/snapback] Remake = Shit* *Except the recent Oliver Twist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Wedding Crashers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 The non-japanese one. 110537[/snapback] The original is possibly the best horror movie I've ever seen, recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckypierre 0 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 isnt the american one a shot for shot remake by the same director? Still a remake but if Brock doesnt like it I cant see how he'd like the Japanese one either. Jennifer Connellys a good actress, it would still be unoriginal and the story is exactly the same. Some people just arent scared by the suspense driven japanese style, Im like a little girl when it comes to them. On the other hand the missus isnt bothered one bit but she gets scared shitless at your typical US slasher flick which I find laughable. I thought the Grudge was scarier mind. Check out Neighbour No 13 Dotbum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 isnt the american one a shot for shot remake by the same director? Still a remake but if Brock doesnt like it I cant see how he'd like the Japanese one either. Jennifer Connellys a good actress, it would still be unoriginal and the story is exactly the same. Some people just arent scared by the suspense driven japanese style, Im like a little girl when it comes to them. On the other hand the missus isnt bothered one bit but she gets scared shitless at your typical US slasher flick which I find laughable. I thought the Grudge was scarier mind. Check out Neighbour No 13 Dotbum 110551[/snapback] I haven't seen the remake, but I agree on Connelly; then again good acting has feck all to do with it if the director isn't pulling the strings right! I did see the remake of 'The Ring', I thought it was a very competent remake but was left wondering what the point was, it was virtually identical, not as scary but a bit more graphic. I like to have a little smoke before a horror movie, if kitchen appliances are terrifying before you sit down to watch you'll probably have a more satisfying experience. Will have a look for Neighbour 13 today, cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckypierre 0 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 I thought the Ring remake was scarier than the original but not as good a film. Neighbour no 13 is more horrific than horror but I think you'll like it. A Tale of Two Sisters isnt bad either, ends up being much more than you initially think it will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Has anybody seen 'The Proposition' yet? I might be seeing it tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Just watched Hostel, one of the best horror movies I've ever seen; works on many levels, definitely one for HF to check out. I'm not usually a fan of the gory side of horror movies, but I didn't find any of it gratuitous. 102992[/snapback] Got round to watching it on your recommendation and loved it. Cheers I guess you're talking about the whole Americans being despised thing as working on another level, but I wasn't really sure because it's basically a stated fact throughout that Americans are worth more because of it. Then again, were you thinking it could be compared to American foreign policy and how they reap what they sow in plundering other nations? Or was it the fact that wealthy folk get to kill with impunity? Or maybe that shagging around will drop you in a world of shit. I'm probably reading too much into it now. Takashi Miike's cameo was shit like, apart from the fact that he was credited as playing himself. That's class, that he's happy to be portrayed as someone who spends his weekends off torturing innocent folk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckypierre 0 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 (edited) Shows you how two (or three) people can have such a different view. I thought it was awful. It had no scares or suspense. The nudity and gore felt like cheap tactics for (no doubt) the overly male audience. One of the worst films Ive seen. Edited March 28, 2006 by luckypierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Shows you how two (or three) people can have such a different view. I thought it was awful. It had no scares or suspense. The nudity and gore felt like cheap tactics for (no doubt) the overly male audience. One of the worst films Ive seen. 111172[/snapback] I agree, it wasn't in the least bit scary. But despite myself I was willing the guy to get away at the end and didn't have a clue if he would. I also thoroughly enjoyed the nudity and the gore. But then I'm male, so perhaps you're right. I just had a stupid grin on my face for the last half hour and felt queasy seeing what that Yank was doing to the poor lass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 (edited) Shows you how two (or three) people can have such a different view. I thought it was awful. It had no scares or suspense. The nudity and gore felt like cheap tactics for (no doubt) the overly male audience. One of the worst films Ive seen. 111172[/snapback] I don't understand how the nudity can be seen as gratuitous. The start was very typical lads weekend in Amsterdam, 2 times during the film it could be said to be over the top, and both times there was a very good reason for that. In fact, it could be labelled a twisted morality tale; very Old Testament, maybe even an eye for an eye? I think it's unfair to lump it in with something like Nightmare on Elm Street, the suspense was built quite well, it was disturbingly close to something that might actually happen. And torture and gore is unfortunately more of a horrific reality than say Ringu, it scared the shit out of me, but if you step back for a second, it can't ever happen, so the spell is broken. It's why I'm such a lover of horror movies, it's such a difficult genre; if that spell is broken for one second, for any reason, they've probably lost you for the whole movie. So, for me, one of the best ever made. HF - Glad you liked it, I thought it had a lot of depth for a horror movie, anyone think there was a comparison made to antisemitism and the treatment of the Americans? Edited March 28, 2006 by DotBum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 anyone think there was a comparison made to antisemitism and the treatment of the Americans? 111233[/snapback] I thought they tried to avoid the comparison by making the leads rather stupid. The Jews were going along minding their own business when they got virtually wiped out of Europe. These Americans came to Europe looking for girls they can't get at home, causing trouble in clubs, bitching that the TV doesn't have subtitles. They're jack-asses who think the world should cater to them rather than attempting to fit in with the world. I think Eli Roth might be making a point that Americans are pariahs outside of their own country, but was careful to show the behaviour that makes it so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythetoon 0 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Not a flim but I watched the full series of Band of Brothers again last week. Great show but the way they portray the Brits lets it down, otherwise cracking stuff. Watching series 1&2 of the Sopranos this week. Other day I watched that Anchor Man? Thought that was canny in a light hearted way. Zanny in parts which I like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 anyone think there was a comparison made to antisemitism and the treatment of the Americans? 111233[/snapback] I thought they tried to avoid the comparison by making the leads rather stupid. The Jews were going along minding their own business when they got virtually wiped out of Europe. These Americans came to Europe looking for girls they can't get at home, causing trouble in clubs, bitching that the TV doesn't have subtitles. They're jack-asses who think the world should cater to them rather than attempting to fit in with the world. I think Eli Roth might be making a point that Americans are pariahs outside of their own country, but was careful to show the behaviour that makes it so. 111249[/snapback] I didn't think that the contrast was there to show that that one led to the other, I thought he was saying 'Hey, we understand that Americans can be idiots, too" and that maybe he understands where the dislike(hatred?) comes from. Do you think they behaved like that because they were young men, or because they were Americans? The American client at the end was an open admission of what's wrong with some Americans, but I thought the boys were typical of Western culture, and humanity, not the just the US. There were too many pointers to anti-semitism for me to dismiss, maybe on their own, but not all together. The scene where they're being abused and shit thrown down on them on the Amsterdam street was hugely evocative for me, and to a lesser extent did the torture chambers remind you of anything? It's littered with other suggestions, Anne Frank Huis is a popular attraction, but seems a little out of character for their holiday. The problem with racial hatred and xenophobia is that the accusations are often based on half truths that are quite difficult to refute. But saying that all Americans are like that, and have ultimately brought it on themselves should be no different than saying similar things about the holocaust, but it's acceptable to mock Americans now, it reminds me of Orwell's essay on the treatment of Jews in the UK after WWII, accepted. I don't think it's an accident that it can be argued either way, or am I reading too much into it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Not a flim but I watched the full series of Band of Brothers again last week. Great show but the way they portray the Brits lets it down, otherwise cracking stuff. Watching series 1&2 of the Sopranos this week. 111251[/snapback] I wouldn't say they were portrayed particularly badly, just hardly portrayed it all! it's still disappointing especially as the BBC co-produced it. But then again, it was about an American unit. Watched Amelie for the first time in ages. A marvelous film, I love the bit where she offers change to a tramp but he replies 'No thanks, I never work on a Sunday'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Watched Amelie for the first time in ages. A marvelous film, I love the bit where she offers change to a tramp but he replies 'No thanks, I never work on a Sunday'. 111342[/snapback] One of my favourites ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15518 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Watched Amelie for the first time in ages. A marvelous film, I love the bit where she offers change to a tramp but he replies 'No thanks, I never work on a Sunday'. 111342[/snapback] One of my favourites ever 111349[/snapback] I absolutely love it. This isn't helping your cause, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I didn't think that the contrast was there to show that that one led to the other, I thought he was saying 'Hey, we understand that Americans can be idiots, too" and that maybe he understands where the dislike(hatred?) comes from. Do you think they behaved like that because they were young men, or because they were Americans? The American client at the end was an open admission of what's wrong with some Americans, but I thought the boys were typical of Western culture, and humanity, not the just the US. 111258[/snapback] I suppose, but people of all nations were killing and being killed. We only saw Americans being obnoxious though. There were too many pointers to anti-semitism for me to dismiss, maybe on their own, but not all together. The scene where they're being abused and shit thrown down on them on the Amsterdam street was hugely evocative for me, and to a lesser extent did the torture chambers remind you of anything? It's littered with other suggestions, Anne Frank Huis is a popular attraction, but seems a little out of character for their holiday. 111258[/snapback] I didn't really get that from the scene where they made a racket and got stuff thrown at them. There was a similar scene later where the young kids attacked the gangsters. Did you feel the same about that? I see what you're saying though and i don't think it was accidental either because it crossed my mind too. I watched a programme on BBC4 on Sunday called Hollywood and the Holocaust where they referred to the concentration camps as an Industry of Death. When the lad got to the warehouse that phrase kept running through my head. The problem with racial hatred and xenophobia is that the accusations are often based on half truths that are quite difficult to refute. But saying that all Americans are like that, and have ultimately brought it on themselves should be no different than saying similar things about the holocaust, but it's acceptable to mock Americans now, it reminds me of Orwell's essay on the treatment of Jews in the UK after WWII, accepted. I don't think it's an accident that it can be argued either way, or am I reading too much into it? 111258[/snapback] I'd never considered it was defending the majority of Americans who are not gun toting barnpots, and like the idea. But was personally left with more of an impression it was waving a cationary finger at Americans in terms of how to respect other nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now