Alex 35100 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Park Life said: I had to check. In case there was blowback. I could only remember the Genoa treaty. I did know he was Corsican and that the Corsican language is basically an Italian dialect through a few films and having read the odd thing about the Corsican underworld and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21640 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Still, compared to Belgium..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Alex said: I did know he was Corsican and that the Corsican language is basically an Italian dialect through a few films and having read the odd thing about the Corsican underworld and so on. They are quite tough and generally underrated as a mafia. Not keen on the French either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35100 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Park Life said: They are quite tough and generally underrated as a mafia. Not keen on the French either. Aye, there's an independence movement too, isn't there? Not that it seems like it's likely to gain much traction any time soon. To keep things reasonably on track, you'll have seen A Prophet, I take it? That's a good film. Edited November 13, 2017 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Alex said: Aye, there's an indepence movement too, isn't there? Not that it seems like it's likely to gain much traction any time soon. To keep things reasonably on track, you'll have seen A Prophet, I take it? That's a good film. Yeah good film watched it a few times. When we were on Sardinia Mrs P kept wanting to get the ferry over but I wasn't having any of it...Having seen some of their antics in Nice and Monaco etc...True Story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44967 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Parky in pastel shirt, linen suit trousers and a Panama hat. "I'm telling you darling, we're not going.....Sweetie, I've seen these rapscallions before in Nice and Monaco. Absolutely ghastly little nincompoops! More champagne?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35100 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 My auntie Nora's been there on a walking holiday so I think you might be ok on a tourist trip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10866 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, David Kelly said: I watched Highlander again yesterday and whilst being fully aware of the flaws (Lambert while I don't necessarily think he's a bad actor, is really miscast, him receiving 'the prize' is pretty awful) still enjoyed it greatly and not just for the nostalgia. Clancy Brown is excellent as Kurgen, Connery is always great to watch, I actually think the fight scenes are good and benefit from not smashing up entire cities and the soundtrack is excellent. Technically all of the Marvel films you mention are better but they simply aren't as much fun. And fwiw I do actually rate all the ones you mention. I suppose I do get jaded by the shite that the rest of them are (first two of each of the x men series excluded). I can't imagine there'll be many of them I still want to watch in 10 years time let alone 30. Deadpool, Guardians and X Men maybe. Yeah love Clancy Brown as Kurgen, recasting that character will be tough. Need a big bloke who has genuine menace, but isn't just a Dolph Lungren type. Vin Diesel wouldn't work, for example. The Soundtrack is quality and while I'm not sure it would work in a remake, they should endeavour to have something similar for it. That said, I'm not sure that's possible these days, and it'd end up being fucking Muse or something. I don't agree about them not being as much fun, but we're grown men comparing a 1980's 15 certificate movie with modern PG/12 movies. Highlander was able to be more violent, more adult than most of the Marvel stock. There were parts of Cap 3, Avengers 1, Guardians where I was just grinning throughout the entirety of whatever action sequence I was watching at the time (Tunnel and Airport, Forest and Finale, most of it). Re: the fight scenes in Highlander, I think they're among the weakest parts of the film. These guys are supposed to be expert swordsmen and yet they're duelling like they're schoolkids fighting with sticks. They stagger about just trying to clang their swords together. If it were remade there'd be scope for clashes of styles and equipment; katana vs rapier, claymore vs khopesh, sai vs falchion etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10866 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Renton said: Was he? I thought they'd trained a diminutive Peruvian bear for the role. You've kind of made my point. It was necessary for Paddington to be CGI, and they did it flawlessly. Not sure what other bits were CGI but they weren't noticeable. The first lord of the rings film would be another example where they got it right. I doubt CGI will ever be reigned in sufficiently in superhero films because it's kind of the whole premise of them. As a medium, when it's done to that extent, it's tedious imo. CGI will always need to be used because people can't fly, or shoot lasers out their eyes, but as in Logan, Cap 2, Nolan's Batman, if the story's good, if the characters are developed and if there's a weight to the CGI it works. If it's Green Lantern or Transformers it's clunky, jarring and discombobulating. The big problem is the overreliance on destruction porn to raise the stakes. and that's not a fault of the source material, that's an issue with the director/producers/studio. Which is why the tunnel scene in Cap 2 is much better than the fight between Superman and Zod, the former had pacing and there was peril, the latter was basically the same as getting bored in Simcity and unleashing the aliens and disasters on your buildings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 23 minutes ago, The Fish said: Yeah love Clancy Brown as Kurgen, recasting that character will be tough. Need a big bloke who has genuine menace, but isn't just a Dolph Lungren type. Vin Diesel wouldn't work, for example. The Soundtrack is quality and while I'm not sure it would work in a remake, they should endeavour to have something similar for it. That said, I'm not sure that's possible these days, and it'd end up being fucking Muse or something. I don't agree about them not being as much fun, but we're grown men comparing a 1980's 15 certificate movie with modern PG/12 movies. Highlander was able to be more violent, more adult than most of the Marvel stock. There were parts of Cap 3, Avengers 1, Guardians where I was just grinning throughout the entirety of whatever action sequence I was watching at the time (Tunnel and Airport, Forest and Finale, most of it). Re: the fight scenes in Highlander, I think they're among the weakest parts of the film. These guys are supposed to be expert swordsmen and yet they're duelling like they're schoolkids fighting with sticks. They stagger about just trying to clang their swords together. If it were remade there'd be scope for clashes of styles and equipment; katana vs rapier, claymore vs khopesh, sai vs falchion etc. I'll concede that Guardians and Deadpool are fun but Cap 3 (and Avengers 2 which you've not mentioned) were two of the least fun films I've ever watched. Cap 3 in particular, I just sat through all of the action scenes thinking they should be fun but I just found them completely soulless. It did improve a bit when Spiderman was in there. I think you're totally overthinking and to an extent missing the point re the fight scenes in Highlander. We're not talking about a Schindlers list or Godfather type film here. It doesn't need a (hopefully googled) knowledge of fencing techniques. Clashing swords and cutting off heads is perfectly acceptable for a scifi film of this type man. Tbh if other films have more detail I've never noticed them (I suppose Syrio Florell against the kingsguard in the first season of GOT stands out). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 The heavy sword is always about brute force and used primarily in duels (two handers). Battle swords due to longer fighting needs are lighter with a longer blade and hardened tip to penetrate armour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44967 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 I watched Civil War or whatever it was called. Holy fucking shit, I thought it would never end. Someone needs to tell these tits to keep it to 90 minutes. They could easily do that by not having a 45 minute fight scene that everyone knows the outcome of at the end of every one of these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30645 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Oh great, another debate about kids' films. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44967 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, The Fish said: If it were remade there'd be scope for clashes of styles and equipment; katana vs rapier, claymore vs khopesh, sai vs falchion etc. Nerd vs Alert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21959 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 David Ginola!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10866 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, David Kelly said: I'll concede that Guardians and Deadpool are fun but Cap 3 (and Avengers 2 which you've not mentioned) were two of the least fun films I've ever watched. Cap 3 in particular, I just sat through all of the action scenes thinking they should be fun but I just found them completely soulless. It did improve a bit when Spiderman was in there. I think you're totally overthinking and to an extent missing the point re the fight scenes in Highlander. We're not talking about a Schindlers list or Godfather type film here. It doesn't need a (hopefully googled) knowledge of fencing techniques. Clashing swords and cutting off heads is perfectly acceptable for a scifi film of this type man. Tbh if other films have more detail I've never noticed them (I suppose Syrio Florell against the kingsguard in the first season of GOT stands out). Avengers 2 was average at best, and yeah, the action scenes were mostly pony, though I did enjoy Hulk vs Iron Man set piece. I know the fight scenes didn't have to be perfect, but they were just poor. Those aren't techniques, just types of sword/dagger. Trying to think of a good example of a sword fight from a recent movie and can only come up with the big Lightsabre fight in the 1st of the awful prequels. Game of Thrones is a good example of choreographed sword fights adding to the story, rather than detracting. Hound vs Mountain, Mountain vs Viper, Ned vs Jaime, Young Ned vs whatshisname, Brienne vs Arya, Jorah in the fighting pits, and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10866 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: Nerd vs Alert. They're just types of sword, don't we all know things but we don't know why we know the things we know? Y'know? Look, I don't know how this shit takes up space in my brain when I honestly cannot remember my own mother's birthday despite it happening on the same date the past 36yrs of my life, but they're in there like an old wifi password, or the commentary from the 5-0 over Man Utd. They're in here and there's nowt I can do about it. It's like when you move house and you find a whole box full of plates you didn't remember ever buying/receiving, or when a new manager takes over and sees Haris Vuckic still on the books. Except I can't get rid of it. I'm burdened by knowing useless shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21640 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 17 minutes ago, The Fish said: Avengers 2 was average at best, and yeah, the action scenes were mostly pony, though I did enjoy Hulk vs Iron Man set piece. I know the fight scenes didn't have to be perfect, but they were just poor. Those aren't techniques, just types of sword/dagger. Trying to think of a good example of a sword fight from a recent movie and can only come up with the big Lightsabre fight in the 1st of the awful prequels. Game of Thrones is a good example of choreographed sword fights adding to the story, rather than detracting. Hound vs Mountain, Mountain vs Viper, Ned vs Jaime, Young Ned vs whatshisname, Brienne vs Arya, Jorah in the fighting pits, and so on. Did I somehow miss this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10866 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, Renton said: Did I somehow miss this? One of the first episodes, Mountain just lost to Loris Tyrell in the joust, Hound wades through the crowd to clash with his brother, it's a short fight, but it's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44967 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 "They're just types of sword, don't we all know things but we don't know why we know the things we know? Y'know?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44967 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 This is an absolutely bizarre turn of events, The Fish's knowledge of sword types and his instant recall of sword fights from film and TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21640 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Gemmill said: "They're just types of sword, don't we all know things but we don't know why we know the things we know? Y'know?" Cheers Fish, that fight went straight o we me (probably because the significance of the mountain wasn't there for me then). You missed hound vs. Brienne as an obvious GoT classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21640 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 And Brienne vs Jamie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30645 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Okay okay. You've got a thing for massive women. We get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 ... I don't often post in this thread, but between Renton's newly exposed fetish and Gemmill's elven cosplay selfie, I think I'm done in here for another few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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