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He's too busy playing with his (pin)balls to read a book :cuppa:

I did a lot of reading for my English degree ;) I've never read trainspotting though. I had a signed copy of Porno my folks bought me years ago but God knows where it is these days.

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Just watched ghostbusters with the kids. Youngest loved it, teenager seemed to think it was alright too. It wasn't something I'd bother with but it wasn't totally shite. There was a DC comic film trailer beforehand for a film that looked absolutely fucking woeful called suicide squad which fish might like? :good:

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Just watched ghostbusters with the kids. Youngest loved it, teenager seemed to think it was alright too. It wasn't something I'd bother with but it wasn't totally shite. There was a DC comic film trailer beforehand for a film that looked absolutely fucking woeful called suicide squad which fish might like? :good:

 

Expecting it to be shit, to be honest. Will Smith is going to Will Smith his way through the movie and Batman v Superman didn't convince me that DC can handle ensemble movies in the same was as Joss Whedon did with Avengers and The Russo brothers with Captain America: Civil War. I'm expecting Exposition->Set Piece->Exposition->All seems lost->Set piece->Fin. Which is fine for a pulpy comic book movie if the characters are funny/sympathetic.

 

DC consistently fuck up the movie versions of their stable. These are fully fleshed out characters with rich and complex back stories stretching back decades. In Batman and Superman they have two of the most famous fictional characters of all time and yet when you see the latter on screen he's either a bumbling idiot or a scowling bore. Nolan made some cracking movies, but even his Batman was fairly 2 dimensional and it was in the villains that we got something interesting.

 

When you compare them to the Marvel movies it's a stark contrast. Marvel Studios movies have a variety in tones, have some depth to their characters and yet still don't take themselves too seriously. Be it a heist movie (Antman), or the pseudo-thriller (Winter Soldier), irreverent slapstick (Deadpool) or the straight up Hollywood blockbuster (Avengers), there hasn't really been a true dud. There've been crimes committed in their name by other studios (the latest Fantastic 4 for example), but they've shown that if you trust the people who are conversant in the source material you'll get a product that, at the very least, appeals to and satisfies the nerd-crowd.

 

I am fully aware you don't care but I just needed to get that off my chest. This place is therapeutic.

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Expecting it to be shit, to be honest. Will Smith is going to Will Smith his way through the movie and Batman v Superman didn't convince me that DC can handle ensemble movies in the same was as Joss Whedon did with Avengers and The Russo brothers with Captain America: Civil War. I'm expecting Exposition->Set Piece->Exposition->All seems lost->Set piece->Fin. Which is fine for a pulpy comic book movie if the characters are funny/sympathetic.

 

DC consistently fuck up the movie versions of their stable. These are fully fleshed out characters with rich and complex back stories stretching back decades. In Batman and Superman they have two of the most famous fictional characters of all time and yet when you see the latter on screen he's either a bumbling idiot or a scowling bore. Nolan made some cracking movies, but even his Batman was fairly 2 dimensional and it was in the villains that we got something interesting.

 

When you compare them to the Marvel movies it's a stark contrast. Marvel Studios movies have a variety in tones, have some depth to their characters and yet still don't take themselves too seriously. Be it a heist movie (Antman), or the pseudo-thriller (Winter Soldier), irreverent slapstick (Deadpool) or the straight up Hollywood blockbuster (Avengers), there hasn't really been a true dud. There've been crimes committed in their name by other studios (the latest Fantastic 4 for example), but they've shown that if you trust the people who are conversant in the source material you'll get a product that, at the very least, appeals to and satisfies the nerd-crowd.

 

I am fully aware you don't care but I just needed to get that off my chest. This place is therapeutic.

All these films are shit.

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He's still right though.

 

Well he's not really, they've been widely praised and not just by nerds and geeks. They've oscar nominations and staggering sales, they're both critically and publically acclaimed, but because they're about superheros and explosions they're more often than not dismissed as shit by old men. That's fine, crack on and be earnestly intrigued by a VHS of a korean movie that is really important. :lol:

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Well he's not really, they've been widely praised and not just by nerds and geeks. They've oscar nominations and staggering sales, they're both critically and publically acclaimed, but because they're about superheros and explosions they're more often than not dismissed as shit by old men. That's fine, crack on and be earnestly intrigued by a VHS of a korean movie that is really important. :lol:

Staggering sales? Without even looking it up I know some of them have bombed (They cost 250m to make and another 50m to advertise, plus its done on borrowed money) They need to make something like half a billion before they start making money...A lot of them have made money but not as many as you think just by looking at Gross takings....The Nolan Batman films had a lot of redeeming aspects but the rest are very poor.

 

Hollywood's recent use of data and analytics has destroyed the Super Hero film. The dozens of trial viewings and clowns filling in forms in middle American takes anything that might have been interesting out of these films.

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Expecting it to be shit, to be honest. Will Smith is going to Will Smith his way through the movie and Batman v Superman didn't convince me that DC can handle ensemble movies in the same was as Joss Whedon did with Avengers and The Russo brothers with Captain America: Civil War. I'm expecting Exposition->Set Piece->Exposition->All seems lost->Set piece->Fin. Which is fine for a pulpy comic book movie if the characters are funny/sympathetic.

 

DC consistently fuck up the movie versions of their stable. These are fully fleshed out characters with rich and complex back stories stretching back decades. In Batman and Superman they have two of the most famous fictional characters of all time and yet when you see the latter on screen he's either a bumbling idiot or a scowling bore. Nolan made some cracking movies, but even his Batman was fairly 2 dimensional and it was in the villains that we got something interesting.

 

When you compare them to the Marvel movies it's a stark contrast. Marvel Studios movies have a variety in tones, have some depth to their characters and yet still don't take themselves too seriously. Be it a heist movie (Antman), or the pseudo-thriller (Winter Soldier), irreverent slapstick (Deadpool) or the straight up Hollywood blockbuster (Avengers), there hasn't really been a true dud. There've been crimes committed in their name by other studios (the latest Fantastic 4 for example), but they've shown that if you trust the people who are conversant in the source material you'll get a product that, at the very least, appeals to and satisfies the nerd-crowd.

 

I am fully aware you don't care but I just needed to get that off my chest. This place is therapeutic.

:lol:

 

Fair play.

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The costs of marketing. Plus the costs of making, plus divving up the profit (after tax) to 4/5 production companies, plus the cut A list actors now take (5% normally), plus the cut producers take (3%)....The films have to make huge amounts before there is any real profit.

 

When they say it cots $250 million to make you can add $50 to $100 to that with all the marketing and adv costs. :lol:

 

Super Hero films that made less than half a billion gross (world wide) probably didn't make hardly any profit.

 

"In only a few weeks, Paramount's Transformers: Age of Extinction has become the top-grossing film of all time in China, earning north of $300 million. What's more impressive is that Age of Extinction cost no more than $3 million to $5 million to market to Chinese moviegoers -- a stark contrast to the $100 million prints-and-advertising spend in North America. And multiple sources say studios now are shelling out an additional $100 million per movie to market this summer's big tent poles internationally."

 

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/200-million-rising-hollywood-struggles-721818

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Staggering sales? Without even looking it up I know some of them have bombed (They cost 250m to make and another 50m to advertise, plus its done on borrowed money) They need to make something like half a billion before they start making money...A lot of them have made money but not as many as you think just by looking at Gross takings....The Nolan Batman films had a lot of redeeming aspects but the rest are very poor.

 

Hollywood's recent use of data and analytics has destroyed the Super Hero film. The dozens of trial viewings and clowns filling in forms in middle American takes anything that might have been interesting out of these films.

 

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http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Marvel-Cinematic-Universe#tab=summary

 

 

"destroyed the Super Hero film" :lol:

 

You don't like them, cool, but they're demonstrably successful and critically acclaimed so to dismiss the entire panoply as "shit" because they don't give you what you want from them is frankly stupid.

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Look at the costs of making them AND marketing AND the way the profit is shared as I've explained above. Read the Hollywood reporter article. Understand that the Nolan films were made before Hollywood started using Mom and Pop analytics from the bible belt. It's a very degraded product.

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http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Marvel-Cinematic-Universe#tab=summary

 

 

"destroyed the Super Hero film" :lol:

 

You don't like them, cool, but they're demonstrably successful and critically acclaimed so to dismiss the entire panoply as "shit" because they don't give you what you want from them is frankly stupid.

They're for kids. Literally or figuratively. :whistle:

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They're for kids. Literally or figuratively. :whistle:

Again, not really, but you don't care so I won't bother explaining why you're wrong.

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I watched Civil War and, while it was all very expensive, I couldn't remember a single thing about them as soon as they were done. They're standard blockbuster fare that have been elevated to something more because they're comics. Which should show you how ridiculous the world is

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I watched Civil War and, while it was all very expensive, I couldn't remember a single thing about them as soon as they were done. They're standard blockbuster fare that have been elevated to something more because they're comics. Which should show you how ridiculous the world is

Think you've got it there. They're kids films without any soul basically.

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I watched Civil War and, while it was all very expensive, I couldn't remember a single thing about them as soon as they were done. They're standard blockbuster fare that have been elevated to something more because they're comics. Which should show you how ridiculous the world is

 

At the same time as they're being dismissed because they're comics.

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Look at the costs of making them AND marketing AND the way the profit is shared as I've explained above. Read the Hollywood reporter article. Understand that the Nolan films were made before Hollywood started using Mom and Pop analytics from the bible belt. It's a very degraded product.

 

There's a reason they keep churning them out.

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