Film/moving picture show you most recently watched

[ChezGiven 0]

I went to see Hansel and Gretel the Opera a few months ago. Sung in German. Now that was boring.

 

The mother bore an uncanny resemblance to Angela Merkel which was, i believe, the director's deliberate choice.

 

The mother (representing Germany and Merkel) is of course abusive to her children who 'eat too much'. These children represent the southern European countries, who are left to fend for themselves (representing the restriction of credit through the ECB). The father represents the true political left who have eventually adopted the cruel policy of the matriarch, as he is reluctant to let the children go alone to the forest but is subjugated to their mother (Merkel). The witch is, as i'm sure you've guessed, the banking system who traps the children (southern EU countries) based on the incentives of cakes and candy (cheap credit). The director's socialist core is revealed when the Gretel (Greece?) kicks the witch into the fire (rejects austerity and the political hegemony) and she returns home with Hansel to the father (back into the bosom of responsible socialism).

 

Next week, fear, loathing and destructive jealousy between modern women in 'Snow White and the Seven Dwarves",

[CleeToonFan 1]

I went to see Hansel and Gretel the Opera a few months ago. Sung in German. Now that was boring.

 

The mother bore an uncanny resemblance to Angela Merkel which was, i believe, the director's deliberate choice.

 

The mother (representing Germany and Merkel) is of course abusive to her children who 'eat too much'. These children represent the southern European countries, who are left to fend for themselves (representing the restriction of credit through the ECB). The father represents the true political left who have eventually adopted the cruel policy of the matriarch, as he is reluctant to let the children go alone to the forest but is subjugated to their mother (Merkel). The witch is, as i'm sure you've guessed, the banking system who traps the children (southern EU countries) based on the incentives of cakes and candy (cheap credit). The director's socialist core is revealed when the Gretel (Greece?) kicks the witch into the fire (rejects austerity and the political hegemony) and she returns home with Hansel to the father (back into the bosom of responsible socialism).

 

Next week, fear, loathing and destructive jealousy between modern women in 'Snow White and the Seven Dwarves",

[Monkeys Fist 43064]

[Kid Dynamite 7169]

CGi is killing films imo. We will never see the likes of Big Trouble In little China again. Story lines are secondary

 

Likewise, proper 18 rated action comedies. The original Beverley Hills Cop, Lethal Weapon etc. they are all PG/12s now to maximise revenue

[trophyshy 7084]

Watched Life of Pi, thought it was a bit unbelievable really.

[LoveTheBobby 1]

'far-fetched'

[Ayatollah Hermione 14047]

I'd say the new Superhero movies are closer to the first 3 Die Hards of the late 80s/early 90s. Action, character & humour.

 

This is more like a 1988 equivalent http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095488/

 

I cannot relate to "man gets gifted ridiculous powers and tries to adapt to social norms" as that, my friend, is the home of the awkward and nerdish. I can relate to a working class man striving to repair the relationship with his newly wealthy middle class wife through exceptional circumstances. Who hasn't bent over backwards to regain the sweet touch of a tender woman? I know I, the beloved writer, and you, the dear reader, certainly have. Sometimes life throws obstacles in your path to true sexual contentment; often you have to work around long-distances, teething troubles as you first move in together and even our own personal insecurities and sometimes, you have to kill 15 German terrorists and blow up a skyscraper. Life is funny that way and Die Hard basically holds a mirror up to our romantic endeavours.

[trophyshy 7084]

'far-fetched'

 

 

Aye.

 

Good anti-feline propaganda though, selfish little ingrates as they are.

 

Between that and the Horizon the other week, I expect salmon spawning will be poor this season.

[The Fish 10963]

 

I cannot relate to "man gets gifted ridiculous powers and tries to adapt to social norms" as that, my friend, is the home of the awkward and nerdish. I can relate to a working class man striving to repair the relationship with his newly wealthy middle class wife through exceptional circumstances. Who hasn't bent over backwards to regain the sweet touch of a tender woman? I know I, the beloved writer, and you, the dear reader, certainly have. Sometimes life throws obstacles in your path to true sexual contentment; often you have to work around long-distances, teething troubles as you first move in together and even our own personal insecurities and sometimes, you have to kill 15 German terrorists and blow up a skyscraper. Life is funny that way and Die Hard basically holds a mirror up to our romantic endeavours.

 

Spiderman is all about puberty and the crushing expectations of life. "With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility". This is crammed down our throats throughout our scholastic career. For "Great Power" read "Some Potential". His body is suddenly going through changes, girls are suddenly important, he must face the same demons as we all do, but these are given life and a voice through his various enemies. The Goblin is the world of work, that inescapable foe we all must battle for our entire lives until we defeat it, or it defeats us. Venom is our own ego and the less said about that the better. Sandman is of course time. And through all this he must protect those he holds dear, as must we all, from the enemies I describe.

 

That he pulls on a silly mask and that he has special powers makes the success in the face of his seemingly insurmountable struggles more believable, in fact. Die Hard features a bad husband, an average cop, a bad employee of the state, suddenly a hero. He endures violence and injury that would certainly lead to sufficient blood loss as to render movement a chore, let alone the incredible feats he completes. After he tears down the terrorist cell single handed, he receives no commendations? No desk job? Police Academy gave their bumbling heroes medals for God's sake.

 

Spiderman at least explains the impossible by couching it in a world where shit like this can happen. Die Hard has a hero perform acts beyond the limits of physical acts that humans are capable... then asks us to just roll with it.

 

Spiderman may be "nerdy", but at least it's consistent.

[Monkeys Fist 43064]

[The Fish 10963]

[Kid Dynamite 7169]

 

Spiderman is all about puberty and the crushing expectations of life. "With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility". This is crammed down our throats throughout our scholastic career. For "Great Power" read "Some Potential". His body is suddenly going through changes, girls are suddenly important, he must face the same demons as we all do, but these are given life and a voice through his various enemies. The Goblin is the world of work, that inescapable foe we all must battle for our entire lives until we defeat it, or it defeats us. Venom is our own ego and the less said about that the better. Sandman is of course time. And through all this he must protect those he holds dear, as must we all, from the enemies I describe.

 

That he pulls on a silly mask and that he has special powers makes the success in the face of his seemingly insurmountable struggles more believable, in fact. Die Hard features a bad husband, an average cop, a bad employee of the state, suddenly a hero. He endures violence and injury that would certainly lead to sufficient blood loss as to render movement a chore, let alone the incredible feats he completes. After he tears down the terrorist cell single handed, he receives no commendations? No desk job? Police Academy gave their bumbling heroes medals for God's sake.

 

Spiderman at least explains the impossible by couching it in a world where shit like this can happen. Die Hard has a hero perform acts beyond the limits of physical acts that humans are capable... then asks us to just roll with it.

 

Spiderman may be "nerdy", but at least it's consistent.

And yet Spider-Man was shit and Die Hard is one of the best movies ever made

[Ayatollah Hermione 14047]

And yet Spider-Man was shit and Die Hard is one of the best movies ever made

 

The jury has spoken

[adios 717]

 

Spiderman is all about puberty and the crushing expectations of life. "With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility". This is crammed down our throats throughout our scholastic career. For "Great Power" read "Some Potential". His body is suddenly going through changes, girls are suddenly important, he must face the same demons as we all do, but these are given life and a voice through his various enemies. The Goblin is the world of work, that inescapable foe we all must battle for our entire lives until we defeat it, or it defeats us. Venom is our own ego and the less said about that the better. Sandman is of course time. And through all this he must protect those he holds dear, as must we all, from the enemies I describe.

 

That he pulls on a silly mask and that he has special powers makes the success in the face of his seemingly insurmountable struggles more believable, in fact. Die Hard features a bad husband, an average cop, a bad employee of the state, suddenly a hero. He endures violence and injury that would certainly lead to sufficient blood loss as to render movement a chore, let alone the incredible feats he completes. After he tears down the terrorist cell single handed, he receives no commendations? No desk job? Police Academy gave their bumbling heroes medals for God's sake.

 

Spiderman at least explains the impossible by couching it in a world where shit like this can happen. Die Hard has a hero perform acts beyond the limits of physical acts that humans are capable... then asks us to just roll with it.

 

Spiderman may be "nerdy", but at least it's consistent.

you make spiderman sound a lot like twilight.

 

die hard is motherfuckin' die hard!

[The Fish 10963]

Your comment wasn't about quality, it was about the relate-ability.

 

Spiderman films have been poor, but imo that is down to the directors, actors and producers, not the source material. Die Hard is brilliant as is 2 and arguably 3, 4 is poor and 5 is terrible. I'd say the first 2 had the right men writing, producing and directing a decent story, the latter pair didn't.

 

Batman Begins & Dark Knight are superhero movies that are brilliant, the Iron Man films are equally good (if for different reasons) & the Avengers movie managed to marry 4 disparate action film sub-genres into a genuinely thrilling movie. So it's not that Superhero movies are poor, it's that those in charge have to approach them with the proper mindset. Take the material seriously, but not themselves.

 

Some movies hide behind 3D & CGI to mask the limitations of the content (Hello Mr Bay), some use it because they feel they need to (the fight scenes in the 2nd & 3rd Matrix movies), but others use it to great effect; Jurassic Park, The Matrix, Lord of the Rings. For me you shouldn't marvel at CGI at the time (and 3D is a fad that the sooner we get past that, the sooner it will be used properly), it should be like surround sound.

 

J69 said CGI is killing movies, I say that's nonsense. Good movies are coming out all the time, some that use CGI, some that don't I think what his problem is that the type of movies he remembers growing up with are gilded with nostalgia and it's easy to point at CGI as the reason that modern movies don't live up to the rose-tinted memories.

 

(By the by, BTiLC used CGI)

[The Fish 10963]

you make spiderman sound a lot like twilight.

 

die hard is motherfuckin' die hard!

Raimi definitely made Parker/Spiderman too emo, Webb had a better actor to work with and so he wasn't so self-harmy but I still don't think they got the balance right. The kid's parents were killed in a suspect "accident", his uncle was killed and he could have stopped it, he's never fit in at school and all the kind of stuff that would make a teenage boy fairly damaged. On the other side of that coin he witty, he's supposed to be a child genius, and when he pulls on the mask he's got confidence and self assurance. Maguire was whiny and pathetic and nobody warmed to either side of his character. Andrew Garfield's Spiderman is much better than Maguire's but I'm still not sure about he got the Peter Parker bit right. I reckon if it was produced by Marvel/Disney, it would have been a lot better.

[The Fish 10963]

I'm on a train

[trophyshy 7084]

I can't complain

[LoveTheBobby 1]

"Fish, you have two minutes on your specialist subject which is "the highs and lows of kiddies cartoon character Spiderman . . starting now"

[The Fish 10963]

"Fish, you have two minutes on your specialist subject which is "the highs and lows of kiddies cartoon character Spiderman . . starting now"

I've never been shy of admitting I enjoy comic books. Tell you what, you'd rather have a conversation with someone who reads comics, than someone who reads Dan Brown, or 50 Shades of Grey and their ilk.

 

At least the former know what they are.

[Howmanheyman 33829]

I'm on a train

People of the World, Join hands.

[The Fish 10963]

People of the World, Join hands.

but don't all hold your breath at the same tim...

 

 

..shit

[LoveTheBobby 1]

I've never been shy of admitting I enjoy comic books. Tell you what, you'd rather have a conversation with someone who reads comics, than someone who reads Dan Brown, or 50 Shades of Grey and their ilk.

I'm with you there brother !

I think I went off the comic book film crossover when Aikira (sp) came about . Had a few mates who got quite into the whole Manga thing but I never really 'got it' . Battle Of The Planets was as hardcore as I got .

[Ayatollah Hermione 14047]

I believe Jason Statham is the new villain in Fast and Furious 7 so hopefully that will usher in the new golden age of cinema. It's set AFTER Tokyo Drift too which means some major business will be going down. I can't wait.

[The Fish 10963]

I'm with you there brother !

I think I went off the comic book film crossover when Aikira (sp) came about . Had a few mates who got quite into the whole Manga thing but I never really 'got it' . Battle Of The Planets was as hardcore as I got .

There've been so many bad comic books movies that I totally understand why people will avoid them. The issue was never the ridiculous nature of the material (God knows there've been more ludicrous ideas that've not had moviegoers running for the hills); ti was always the approach of the actors and directors to it.