VAR... really??

[Ayatollah Hermione 13856]

16 hours ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:

I think we’re all missing the point that our refs are absolutely too stupid to know when to call for VAR and when to just deny us a penalty on principle.

 

Called it. Football refs are fundamentally too stupid regarding basic football laws for this to work smoothly with that lot at the helm

[wykikitoon 20112]

Fuck me, Shearer was having a right go at it yesterday when that Peno wasnt given.  

The VAR isnt going to be perfect, at the end of the day it humans making the decisions behind it.  In Rugby League I have seen loads of decisions that arent clear cut given the other way to what I though and others.

People just dont want change.  For me, it was still not beyond reasonable doubt clear that there was contact last night!

[ewerk 30544]

I don't think it was a pen. It's one of those, 'I've seen them given' situations. 

[wykikitoon 20112]

Aye

[adios 717]

6 hours ago, wykikitoon said:

Fuck me, Shearer was having a right go at it yesterday when that Peno wasnt given.  

The VAR isnt going to be perfect, at the end of the day it humans making the decisions behind it.  In Rugby League I have seen loads of decisions that arent clear cut given the other way to what I though and others.

People just dont want change.  For me, it was still not beyond reasonable doubt clear that there was contact last night!

 

6 hours ago, ewerk said:

I don't think it was a pen. It's one of those, 'I've seen them given' situations. 

 

6 hours ago, wykikitoon said:

Aye

Thank Christ; I thought I was losing my marbles the way they were going on about it being a stone-bonker penalty.

[Andrew 4747]

James Horncastle was talking about VAR in Italy on the "On the Continent" podcast this week. 

 

Apparently there has been a big get together of the officials board and all the managers in Serie A to iron out issues, questions and suggestions before the second half of the season and outline where they will be taking it next season.

 

Its a decent podcast overall anyway but if anyone is interested in where VAR might go in england its worth a listen.

[heatonrifles 18]

23 hours ago, PaddockLad said:

 

Perhaps you'd also like to expand on how VAR will change the way the game is played in a fairly significant way? 

 

Was thinking last night that it could put an end to fuckers diving for pens completely. Loved how brave the ref was. 

This could make the game more honest. We’ll see better goals as a result of it - i love seeing a player get clipped a couple of times and go on to score, the way you’d see the likes of Ben arfa or Gascogne run, with nothing but a blind desire to score.

the annoying thing for me is willian could’ve taken the extra step and shot, but has learned to dive instead for a pretty much nailed on penalty goal.

we might also see better defending in terms of good honest tackling - defenders playing a brave, aggressive game without having to mitigate against practised cheating.

to summarise, i fucking hate diving and think this will sort it out.

 

[essembeeofsunderland 811]

Get rid of cheating refs and more correct decision we would have.

[essembeeofsunderland 811]

Could a number of  drones fitted with cameras covering 360 degrees not be better than continuing with cheating refs.Myself and a number of other knowledgeable football people ,vetted by myself, would share the games out,and make the correct decisions everytime.

[strawb 4247]

1 hour ago, essembeeofsunderland said:

Get rid of cheating refs and more correct decision we would have.

Chill out yoda

[LooneyToony 41]

Tennis seems to have it figured out better than all the major team sports that I've seen.  Surely we can use that technology and a few challenges per manager each half?

[ewerk 30544]

Tennis is black and white. Football isn’t.

[LooneyToony 41]

Che?

[Howay 12496]

On 1/18/2018 at 09:55, Andrew said:

James Horncastle was talking about VAR in Italy on the "On the Continent" podcast this week. 

 

Apparently there has been a big get together of the officials board and all the managers in Serie A to iron out issues, questions and suggestions before the second half of the season and outline where they will be taking it next season.

 

Its a decent podcast overall anyway but if anyone is interested in where VAR might go in england its worth a listen.

It was interesting that he was saying there have been significantly less fouls and yellow cards since it was brought in, as since players know they’re being watched more closely they aren’t taking as many risks. 

I think what they were all saying on there was right that the black and white decisions will be helped by it, ones that the official simply missed, but there are a lot of gray areas such as handballs etc where it’s never going to please everyone. 

[PaddockLad 17239]

It's going to be used at the world cup. It'll be chaos

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jan/22/var-2018-world-cup

[essembeeofsunderland 811]

Alli,that cheating bastard at Tottenham, is now having to rely on his footballing ability to help create chances ( penalties) for Kane.Diving has all but been eradicated from his game which has left him looking nothing more than another ' Jenas'.

[Dr Gloom 21912]

Reported 

[Tdansmith 3259]

VAR Liverpool v Wba is making VAR history.

Ilst Wba get a goal tightly chalked off then give Liverpool a pen. 

3min delayed

Pen miss haha

Shot put

Edited January 27, 2018 by Tdansmith

[Kid Dynamite 7025]

Javelin 

[PaddockLad 17239]

 

[Kid Dynamite 7025]

He’s fucking using it again. He’s just checking every goal or penalty box decision to check if he’s right or wrong. Which is exactly what it isn’t intended for 

[Tdansmith 3259]

The only thing that's letting VAR down is the time it's taken, as every decision made by VAR was right.  

[beatty 24]

42 minutes ago, Tdansmith said:

The only thing that's letting VAR down is the time it's taken, as every decision made by VAR was right.  

 

Spot on.

[Dougle 3329]

Well that and who gets to decide when it's used.....

Edited January 27, 2018 by Dougle

[Ayatollah Hermione 13856]

aye, that bulls knacker today was using as a crutch for every single decision. They'll love it since they don't have to actually make any decisions themselves now. He used it at one point for an offside where about 5 West Brom players were offside ffs. Why bother? That game today was a total shambles. Long periods of fuck all happening that completely threatened the complete spontaneity and charm of football.