Andrew 4748 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 We're in a rut, eight games without a win. The 442 came and went, we've seen most of the combos of central midfield pairings, centre back pairings, we've seen Perez and Diame in the 10 position. No Mitro yet but he's about the only untried option I can think of. Is Shelvey our best player or a total liability at this level, or both? Ritchie is our leading assist maker but has only produced one since September, how can that be remedied? Going off what we have on the takeover if we've 30 million or whatever to spend where would you put it? How would you change our shape, or our style to get something out of the Christmas period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20129 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I think without Shelvey were a weaker team. He is clearly a lad who has fire in his belly and does stuff without thinking. He must be frustrated and fucked off like us lot. That doesn't excuse his discipline issues though. I think Perez should only be allowed to make the half time cup's of teas and that should be done with supervision! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Three at the back? Lascelles-Clarke-Lejeun Yedlin and Ritchie attacking, but hardworking, wing backs. merino-shelvey-hayden in midfield Gayle and Mitrovic up front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 14 minutes ago, Andrew said: We're in a rut, eight games without a win. The 442 came and went, we've seen most of the combos of central midfield pairings, centre back pairings, we've seen Perez and Diame in the 10 position. No Mitro yet but he's about the only untried option I can think of. Is Shelvey our best player or a total liability at this level, or both? Ritchie is our leading assist maker but has only produced one since September, how can that be remedied? Going off what we have on the takeover if we've 30 million or whatever to spend where would you put it? How would you change our shape, or our style to get something out of the Christmas period? Shelvey is both our most talented and least dependable player. Ritchie will provide assists if we sack off short corners, if we get better movement from our striker or see our striker compete more with the defenders physically. £30m must be spent on a striker, best bet would probably be getting some young lad on loan? Maybe Ings or Sturridge? I think the latter is brilliant when he's on fire, but is always a selfish cunt. I'd try and get an attacking midfielder of quality in, even if it's a loan deal with an option/obligation to buy in the summer. A left back is vital too. Dunno how to stretch £30m without knowing what's out there. Get back to the 4-2-3-1 that wasn't great, but we at least looked more defensively solid. Elliott Yedlin Lascelles Clark Mbemba Merino Hayden Ritchie Murphy Atsu Mitrovic/Gayle* Mbemba is alright at LB, but I was thinking if we're struggling with numbers in midfield, Atsu and Yedlin can move into more of a wing back position, Mbemba can slide across to go 3 at the back. Ritchie stays on the right but tucked in, Murphy moves to the mirror position on the left, like this; Elliott Lascelles Clark Mbemba Yedlin Merino Hayden Atsu Ritchie-------------Murphy Mitrovic/Gayle* *depending on opposition; Mitro when we need to hold the ball up and compete physically, Gayle when we need to pull their defense around or take advantage of gaps behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 is that a 3-3-2-1? deano-esque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20129 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I would love to see Luke Shaw in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 Merino has played as a number 10 of sorts for the Spanish U21 side, worth a go there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 15 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: is that a 3-3-2-1? deano-esque More a flexible 5-3-2-1/-3-5-2-1. Oh Deano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerbarton 24 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Agree that 4-2-3-1 yielded our most solid performances and best results. We need to get back to basics and put in some backs to the walls performances. I’d argue midfield is looking passable - we need a striker and number ten, we need a goalkeeper, and we need a dependable left-back. In that order. I’d agree a loan striker - Sturridge or Ings being good shouts - and maybe invest the bulk of that cash in a really good number ten. Who that is I have no idea, but if we got someone in that position who could score goals I think it’d make a huge difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 remember that winter when brum were in the shit and they bought dugarry. a creative number 10 type who, inspired them to survival. that's the sort of player we need to save the day. crying out for a bit of creativity behind the striker. someone to finish would be good too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: remember that winter when brum were in the shit and they bought dugarry. a creative number 10 type who, inspired them to survival. that's the sort of player we need to save the day. crying out for a bit of creativity behind the striker. someone to finish would be good too I saw him play against us at SJP. He was quite capable of playing with his back to goal and was physically able to handle himself in the PL as well as the creative side of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Anyone know what Le Sib is up to these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4248 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Get on the blower to pirlo and totti see if they fancy a six month stint imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, ewerk said: Anyone know what Le Sib is up to these days? Retirement After finishing his playing career, Sibierski briefly became a football agent with his brother. He is currently the Sporting Director of Ligue 2 club RC Lens. Off the top of me head... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Park Life 71 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Fished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33180 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Could try a traquestra in the middle field false attacking position or go for the cinquenta role of five in the back line come middle wide area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42427 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Shrub Shrub Shrub Herbs. Herbs Decking. Decking Water Feature Bush. Gnome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Milk----Milk Lemonade Round--The--Corner Chocolates--Made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I was going to type a reply but then it dawned on me that I just can't be arsed with these useless wankers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 27 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: Could try a trequartista in the middle field false attacking position or go for the libero role of five in the back line come middle wide area. A pair of mezzala and carrileros in the centre? Maybe a couple of segundo volantes ahead of an anchorman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42427 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, The Fish said: A pair of mezzala and carrileros in the centre? Maybe a couple of segundo volantes ahead of an anchorman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 52 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: Could try a traquestra in the middle field false attacking position or go for the cinquenta role of five in the back line come middle wide area. You need a regista in with the centro campistas, then you're sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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