Dr Gloom 21915 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Great save but how is that in normal time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 As in, before extra time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Have I been whooshed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 9 hours ago, Gemmill said: It's still awful though. That from Henderson and then Maguire getting praised by Hoddle for diving then waving the ref off from making a decision. Bullshit from the pair of them. I agree, but with the officiating the way it is these days, it's forcing the players to look ridiculous. Hopefully one of the side effects of VAR will be shit like that in the box decreasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Despite the fact that I was joking before and strawb was totally correct that Pickford couldn't have known it wasn't on target, I don't see how you can compare it to Gordon Banks save when the shot wasn't on target. Taking nowt away from Pickford as he did great to get a hand to it. It simply can't be as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 minute ago, The Fish said: I agree, but with the officiating the way it is these days, it's forcing the players to look ridiculous. Hopefully one of the side effects of VAR will be shit like that in the box decreasing. I thought that but last night was some of the worst I've ever seen and most of it was unpunished either on the field or by VAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 29 minutes ago, David Kelly said: Despite the fact that I was joking before and strawb was totally correct that Pickford couldn't have known it wasn't on target, I don't see how you can compare it to Gordon Banks save when the shot wasn't on target. Taking nowt away from Pickford as he did great to get a hand to it. It simply can't be as good. It's better given the context Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Kid Dynamite said: It's better given the context What the context that it led to a corner that cost us the win in 90 minutes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 That's results-oriented thinking for me. It's every bit as good as Banks' save if you consider the probabilities (which is how we should all think, obviously ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Hindsight is a wonderful thing. The context being that at 89mins, without a proper save to make all game, Pickford pulls off a finger tip save from a 40yd screamer to keep England ahead in the game heading into the 1/4 finals Banks made a good save in a group game that stopped England losing 2-0 rather than 1-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 hour ago, adios said: Have I been whooshed? I think I was tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: Hindsight is a wonderful thing. The context being that at 89mins, without a proper save to make all game, Pickford pulls off a finger tip save from a 40yd screamer to keep England ahead in the game heading into the 1/4 finals Banks made a good save in a group game that stopped England losing 2-0 rather than 1-0 Great save. As I see it, it's like watching some wrestler pull off a moonsault in WWE. It looks impressive but we all know it has no real effect. Pickford made a hell of a reach to make that save and, as you say, since he'd had next to nothing to do for the rest of the game it was also impressive for his concentration. But it didn't impact the game positively for us at all. If he'd done worse we'd have actually been better off. That's not his fault and he should be rightly proud of it. I've made saves (not anywhere near as good as that) that have meant just as little in the context of the game that I've probably been just as proud of (in the context of my ability compared to his). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 minute ago, David Kelly said: we all know it has no real effect. You know wrestling is pretend, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Just now, adios said: You know wrestling is pretend, right? My point entirely. I can still be impressed with the athleticism but it has no real impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Thank you; I was due a whooshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Just now, adios said: Thank you; I was due a whooshing. It's late and I'm still at graft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I've seen no definitive proof it was going wide mind. There's only 3 angles of the shot and none are conclusive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 But it clearly was though wasn't it. Still I'm all for lauding it but it's not in the same league as Banks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 In off the post tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42428 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Maradona claims “ England committed a robbery” Suck it, you fat little junkie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToony 41 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Hey MF, I think you linked the wrong thing. About the Pickford save: I saw it as a poorly taken penalty rather than an excellent save. I think the Colombian attempted to go down the middle but kicked it where Pickford was diving. There have been a couple of those in this tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 The discussion is about the save from the screamer by Uribe just before the equaliser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToony 41 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) I think earlier you were all hyped about his penalty save? Which was good for England and all of its subsidiaries Edited July 4, 2018 by LooneyToony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Monkeys Fist said: Maradona claims “ England committed a robbery” Suck it, you fat little junkie. Still off his tits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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