Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 Interesting read. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/feb/21/christian-atsu-newcastle-rafael-benitez?fbclid=IwAR2Vf0xzhYaF9Qq7iNhDsEYlT1uWar49UVJVf1hOz_acAA6_4YHmwS_16TA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilK 3 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 I like Chris Atsu. Seems a nice bloke. Genuine. I just don't think he's a Prem level player. He'd do fine in the Championship but his returns for his games in the Prem and the good games aren't really good enough. He's not a threat and doesn't seem to have an idea when he's got the ball. He'd do well if loaned to Sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22187 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 decent squad player, good pace. we've had worse options on the bench in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 14074 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 I’m inclined to agree but he’s one of those players who seems to improve with a run of games in the side rather than being in and out which renders him a pretty useless sub, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22187 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, TheGingerQuiff said: Shite. relative to some of the other shite we've had, i'd disagree. obertan, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: relative to some of the other shite we've had, i'd disagree. obertan, for example. Come on, you could endorse any player in the division if being better than Obertan made you not shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22187 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, TheGingerQuiff said: Come on, you could endorse any player in the division if being better than Obertan made you not shite that's what i mean though. atsu obviously isn't the best but as far as squad players go, we've had way, way worse - amalfitano, marveaux, abeid, xisco, the irish kid that CT had a boner for, gouffran, cabella, thauvin, rivierie etc. i don't mind him compared to a lot of the shite we've had to endure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22187 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 i would add joselu to that batch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22187 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 actually, the gouff had his day, so maybe including him was harsh, he's probably on par with atsu, score more goals but atsu is quicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 He's got no end product. A pointless player. I mean he's obviously preferable to some of the massive flops you've listed but again that shouldn't really be the benchmark. We need a new winger really. Ritchie isn't great either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22187 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 we could do with better players in most positions, but ashley's tenure is the benchmark, so it's only fair to compare to him to others we've had in recent years, as that's the kind we can expect to buy more often than not, given the constraints. ideally ritchie would be a squad player too but i wouldn't get rid of him either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: actually, the gouff had his day, so maybe including him was harsh, he's probably on par with atsu, score more goals but atsu is quicker Gouffran was better than Atsu imo although it could just be the passing of time making him seem a little better, I just remember him becoming quite competent towards the end of his spell with us. Atsu is a Championship player tbh, good pro and by all accounts a nice bloke but doesn’t pick his head up and look where his teammates are when he’s on the ball. I agree with AH that he improves when he starts a run of games though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22187 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 don't get me wrong, i'm not saying he's a great player and if we had a more ambitious owner i'd hope for an upgrade but he's a half decent squad player compared to a lot of the recent shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: don't get me wrong, i'm not saying he's a great player and if we had a more ambitious owner i'd hope for an upgrade but he's a half decent squad player compared to a lot of the recent shite. Aye, I agree with that. Just protecting my main man Yoann. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 14074 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Gouffran was pretty good when he first came in tbf. Before his legs went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 4 hours ago, Ayatollah Hermione said: Gouffran was pretty good when he first came in tbf. Before his legs went. Plus coaching from the King and McClaren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22187 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Two coaching leviathans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31230 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 15 hours ago, TheGingerQuiff said: Come on, you could endorse any player in the division if being better than Obertan made you not shite Did Obertan not have a bit of a purple patch for us in his final season? And by purple patch I mean not totally dog shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31230 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 15 hours ago, TheGingerQuiff said: Ritchie isn't great either. And yet again, for what must be the fourth season in a row, is our top assist provider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilK 3 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 18 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: relative to some of the other shite we've had, i'd disagree. obertan, for example. Obertan had a few good games, many from the bench. Very like Atsu. (Just dawned on me that sounds like a sneeze) and 2 I think very good games. UNlike Atsu But comparing Atsu with Obertan is just about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilK 3 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 2 hours ago, ewerk said: And yet again, for what must be the fourth season in a row, is our top assist provider. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he hasn't finished his THIRD season yet, surely ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31230 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Oh you and your FACTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7559 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 And don't call him Shirley. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 Ironically when we played West Am away last season Atsu was in good form and he scored a decent goal. I do agree his end product is rather poor in the main, like he gets to the crucial stage and then has a nose bleed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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