Newcastle United: Club Sold To PCP - Official

[Ayatollah Hermione 13842]

1 hour ago, Christmas Tree said:

Exactly what they need to be doing. This shit isn’t difficult and it’s common place everywhere that didn’t have a completely bone-idle, asset stripping prick of an owner

[Alex 35022]

Ashley would rather blow a million in the casino than give 1% of that to a good cause. I would also guess the Xmas meal for players, coaching staff etc is no longer going to be 3 courses for a tenner at Sambuca’s 

[Tom 14011]

Aye.

 

Ashley was a spiteful idiot tbh. A £10m training ground/academy investment would pay for itself twice over (at least) if it produced one premier league quality English player. 

 

14 years of brainlessness . 

[Alex 35022]

3 minutes ago, Tom said:

Aye.

 

Ashley was a spiteful idiot tbh. A £10m training ground/academy investment would pay for itself twice over (at least) if it produced one premier league quality English player. 

 

14 years of brainlessness . 

I’ve said before you don’t even need to do that. When you look at the fees paid in the Championship the odd one of those would pay for it. Typical of his short-sightedness. He ran the club for most of the 14 years like he was couple of months away from selling it 

[Rayvin 5207]

May have been said already but I've just seen the news about the Reuban Foundation matching foodbank donations every home game. I mean I don't doubt that on some level, parts of this are just to get people on side but like.. that's still people getting fed. Honestly feels like the club is going to make a genuine effort to become the heart of the community again, and actually that's a bigger deal for me than winning the fucking league or whatever. Don't get me wrong, I'd take the league too, but I'd far rather that the Newcastle to win it was a Newcastle that was genuinely carrying the city with it, rather than some soulless corporate entity.

 

Which is another reason why I think they've got to get the manager right. Anyway it's nice to hear the good news stories in amongst everything else.

[TheGingerQuiff 2412]

Rayvin been sportswashed and toried

[wykikitoon 20036]

[Monkeys Fist 42286]

That bloke in the corner is like…

[Monkeys Fist 42286]

Also, could’ve just used Ant’s forehead instead of a speech bubble. 😉

[Isegrim 9744]

 

[ewerk 30475]

 Can’t be much more uncompetitive than that.

[Howay 12496]

 In what way can they dress this up as a brand worry, it’s making it clear as day they want to block us from spending and surely it’s not even lawful. It’ll just fire the Saudis up to make it even worse for them. 

Edited October 18, 2021 by Howay

[Chaser 1207]

Absolute sour grapes going on here. Ok while they're feeding from the trough but as soon as we push in, it's suddenly a question of what's good for competition. Laughable. 

[Tom 14011]

Nobody was arsed about our sponsorships when Sports Direct were getting them for free but now it’s suddenly a concern  

[TheGingerQuiff 2412]

Brilliant. Let's see who can afford the best lawyers.

[Andrew 4737]

11 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said:

Brilliant. Let's see who can afford the best lawyers.

Aye I wonder if it will be us and Manchester City 

[Isegrim 9744]

They had 18 months to come up with regulations to “protect the brand” and to preserve “financial fairness” and “moral principles”. In the end they did nothing banking on the takeover to fail. They didn’t want to set up barriers who might prove to be self-harming in case they got in Newcastle’s position.

[Monkeys Fist 42286]

17 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said:

Brilliant. Let's see who can afford the best lawyers.

 

5 minutes ago, Andrew said:

Aye I wonder if it will be us and Manchester City 

bin Salaman should just buy a controlling share in every company that sponsors the other 19 and cancel their deals. 
 

For shits and giggles and that. 
 

 

[Monkeys Fist 42286]

 Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and Tottenham shouldn’t be able to vote on any issue which is about “brand protection” or “safeguarding the league” etc after they all tried to fuck off out of it in the not-very-fucking-distant-at-all past. 
 

Shameless cunts, the lot of them. 

[Howay 12496]

“Straight after it, the 19 clubs met on their own to discuss the financial implications of having the Saudis as competitors. It led to the draft of the temporary ban on related party transactions – Newcastle would be notified of this – and then to Monday’s meeting.”

Tbh this alone sounds dodgy as fuck, surely it’s meant to all be done in the open and not 19 clubs nattering about another behind closed doors. Isn’t this the exact type of behind doors collision the tossers formerly known as the “big six” accused of with regard to the ESL? 

[Rayvin 5207]

I doubt we can stand up to 18 other clubs mind. Nice to see City took our side, albeit for their own reasons I'm sure.

 

Either way, if this is the particular strategy they're going to try, can we just Man Utd it? Set up a noodle sponsor, a toilet roll sponsor, rubbish collection, paper mill, handtowels, etc.

 

Presumably they're concerned that we'll get sponsorship right across PIF related companies, and tbh now that I think about it, that would indeed utterly fuck them. Even at 'fair market value' I'm willing to bet. If that's the worst we come out of it with, they're fucked. If Man Utd can have sponsors for everything under the sun, we can have everything in PIF's investment portfolio.

[Monkeys Fist 42286]

10 Crisp vending machines sponsored by the Bruce family for £8 million. 
 

If that was offered I’d have his hands off, pardon the phrasing. 

[Howay 12496]

50 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

I doubt we can stand up to 18 other clubs mind. Nice to see City took our side, albeit for their own reasons I'm sure.

 

Either way, if this is the particular strategy they're going to try, can we just Man Utd it? Set up a noodle sponsor, a toilet roll sponsor, rubbish collection, paper mill, handtowels, etc.

 

Presumably they're concerned that we'll get sponsorship right across PIF related companies, and tbh now that I think about it, that would indeed utterly fuck them. Even at 'fair market value' I'm willing to bet. If that's the worst we come out of it with, they're fucked. If Man Utd can have sponsors for everything under the sun, we can have everything in PIF's investment portfolio.

I think they’re on dodgy ground and are reaching, it’ll realistically be a few clubs with their noses out of joint trying to do anything they can to disrupt and the others just going along with it.
 

I think even this “fair value” shit they’re bringing up is ropey, it would be very hard to attribute a fair value to a sponsorship deal especially as the PiF could claim numerous benefits of advancing things in their own country by using branding etc. They would need to bring in some type of independent authority on this, funnily enough the exact type of thing most these twats have been fighting to keep away from their affairs. Plus as you say we can then just have a sponsor for absolutely everything. 
 

I agree with Isegrim that they were banking on the takeover being blocked so are now trying to throw any blocker they can. The bit I think they’re missing here is they should have a good long think before they go this type of route, as do it enough and it will eventually become easier for Newcastle and Manchester City to just go to the court system and smash FFP all over the place, then not needing to do any of this “financial doping”.

 

Again though I personally find it very troubling that the clubs are ganging up behind closed doors and conspiring in this fashion. A very troubling precedent iyam, and another thing some of these clubs should probably be thinking twice about doing. 

[Rayvin 5207]

It does genuinely feel as though the real issue here is that we were never meant to be anything other than a footnote in their glorious and storied histories. As if there are only a handful of  successful clubs and the deal is that everyone else just goes along with it and knows their place. Were City opposed with this sort of thing? I don't remember it but maybe they were. There's going to be a real siege mentality around the club in short order though, which is only going to further entrench opinions either side.

[Howay 12496]

2 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

It does genuinely feel as though the real issue here is that we were never meant to be anything other than a footnote in their glorious and storied histories. As if there are only a handful of  successful clubs and the deal is that everyone else just goes along with it and knows their place. Were City opposed with this sort of thing? I don't remember it but maybe they were. There's going to be a real siege mentality around the club in short order though, which is only going to further entrench opinions either side.

I’m happy to be corrected but I don’t think they faced anything like this, and I think the reason was the pure arrogance of Manchester United/Liverpool etc, they’ve learned that a club can quickly transform when serious money is injected into it and that this repeated “but this club is bigger than this club” means very little when one of the clubs is offering more money and a better platform to win things. 
 

I agree about the mentality, and I think it’s going to be pissing our owners off. The fact they sent Charnley points to the fact they don’t take this threat too seriously iyam, all of the big hitters were in Newcastle on Sunday afternoon and were clearly aware of this Monday meeting but sent a bloke that’s on the verge of getting his P45. Even if any of it stuck (which I can’t see it being the case) we have a ton of headroom to spend even with our shite sponsorship deals anyway, plenty of time to figure out alternative arrangements.