Kid Dynamite 7174 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 21 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said: J69 arguing with himself. Nobody has credited the government as far as I can see. Not in this thread anyway. Most reasonable people can pass judgement on a single policy without being in favour of those who passed it. Ironically those who don't seem to be able to can usually be found complaining about how polarised politics have become because of social media. It was a general rant rather than being aimed at you princess. Had lockdown and furlough been put in place when needed then I’d have given the government credit. Instead it was a reactive response when the horse had long since bolted and the whole country was going up in flames. Lockdown was announced in advance ffs, the pubs were rammed on the Friday night, we had champions league matches packed out, Cheltenham, the list goes on.... 20k deaths was the early prediction remember. As usual, the working class and public sector workers will be paying for this anyway. They get fuck all credit from me! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 9459 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 4 hours ago, TheGingerQuiff said: He's not even that cash rich, much of his wealth is in assets. wallpaper.... i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22156 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said: I refuse to give the government credit for the furlough scheme. They had no choice. And it’s suddenly not that radical when you consider just about every country in the EU did exactly the same. Cummings, Boris, Raab, Gove, Hunt, Patel et al can all burn in hell for me. They stole Brexit and fucked the nation for generations, completely bolloxed COVID resulting in massive loss of life and continue to stoke hatred on Immigration meaning the likes of Farage and Tommy R now have a voice and casual racism is alive and kicking again in all walks of life. Anyone defending them is either a cunt or stupid. (IDEMT) I don’t see anyone defending them on here. Even CT has been quiet. Yeah, they had no choice. Socialism is fashionable all of a sudden. Shame it took a pandemic. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35588 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: I don’t see anyone defending them on here. Even CT has been quiet. Yeah, they had no choice. Socialism is fashionable all of a sudden. Shame it took a pandemic. Don’t fucking tempt fate, man 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 14053 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Hey lads, does anyone know if the scrubbers next door can use the slip and slide without a COVID test? All bollocks anyway isn’t it?[/CT] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5299 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 04/09/2020 at 17:35, Dr Gloom said: I don’t see anyone defending them on here. Even CT has been quiet. Yeah, they had no choice. Socialism is fashionable all of a sudden. Shame it took a pandemic. Socialism carried out by a bunch of people who don't believe in it, are woefully incompetent anyway, and who have literally no plan or intention of moving towards a sustainable outcome. It's basically as if some twat coked up and let loose with the family credit cards, overpaying for things, and buying things he doesn't need - and when the rush passes, he'll be left penniless and in debt with no better option than to make his family even worse off than they were before in order to pay everything back. It's not socialism, it's just incompetence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22156 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Rayvin said: Socialism carried out by a bunch of people who don't believe in it, are woefully incompetent anyway, and who have literally no plan or intention of moving towards a sustainable outcome. It's basically as if some twat coked up and let loose with the family credit cards, overpaying for things, and buying things he doesn't need - and when the rush passes, he'll be left penniless and in debt with no better option than to make his family even worse off than they were before in order to pay everything back. It's not socialism, it's just incompetence. they are, in the short-term, socialist policies though - aren't they? they've just been delivered by an incompetent government and ministers who are quietly seething at what they have been forced to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5299 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: they are, in the short-term, socialist policies though - aren't they? they've just been delivered by an incompetent government and ministers who are quietly seething at what they have been forced to do. I'm not really sure any of this counts tbh, depends how far back in time you want to go as to the cause of why we're here. I could say that we've furloughed people so that capitalist enterprises don't go under because we've told people to stay home to protect the socialist NHS which is in need of protection because it has been stripped bare over many years as a consequence of capitalist/neoliberal austerity. I just don't think we can call this socialism if there's not an overall strategy aimed at bringing in socialism behind it. It's just 'desperately spending money to prop up as much of the economy as possible' in my eyes. The risk if we start calling it socialism is that we're going to have to spend the next 20 years trying to tell people that actually, if socialist components to society had been implemented properly we wouldn't have lengthy periods of austerity following it. And we'll fail at explaining that. All the public are going to see from this is "The Tories are doing socialism" and then 5 years later "holy fuck, socialism sucks - it's ruined the country". It feeds into that whole complete oversimplification of the matters at hand that landed us austerity in the first place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22156 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Rayvin said: I'm not really sure any of this counts tbh, depends how far back in time you want to go as to the cause of why we're here. I could say that we've furloughed people so that capitalist enterprises don't go under because we've told people to stay home to protect the socialist NHS which is in need of protection because it has been stripped bare over many years as a consequence of capitalist/neoliberal austerity. I just don't think we can call this socialism if there's not an overall strategy aimed at bringing in socialism behind it. It's just 'desperately spending money to prop up as much of the economy as possible' in my eyes. The risk if we start calling it socialism is that we're going to have to spend the next 20 years trying to tell people that actually, if socialist components to society had been implemented properly we wouldn't have lengthy periods of austerity following it. And we'll fail at explaining that. All the public are going to see from this is "The Tories are doing socialism" and then 5 years later "holy fuck, socialism sucks - it's ruined the country". It feeds into that whole complete oversimplification of the matters at hand that landed us austerity in the first place. yeah, i wouldn't call these cunts socialists either. it was delivered through gritted teeth, but i would still say that the intervention to save jobs on a national scale was a socialist policy. however, i don't doubt for a minuter that we will be among the first countries in europe to withdraw the support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20742 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Fuck off to the Politics thread you boring sods 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 5 hours ago, wykikitoon said: Fuck off to the Politics thread you boring sods aha, nihilist eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14013 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 I’ll call HR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9906 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 23 hours ago, Kitman said: aha, nihilist eh? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20742 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 https://twitter.com/SkySports_Keith/status/1303765684904775680?s=19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14013 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 How can the PL reject a bid that was withdrawn? Seems odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Anyway I assume this means they can be sued for their decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14013 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Newcastle United can confirm that the Premier League has rejected a takeover bid made by PCP Capital Partners, the Reuben Brothers and the Public Investment Fund of Saudi Arabia (PIF) based on its Owners and Directors test. This conclusion has been reached despite the club providing the Premier League with overwhelming evidence and legal opinions that PIF is independent and autonomous of the Saudi Arabian government. The club and its owners do not accept that Premier League chief executive Richard Masters and the Premier League have acted appropriately in relation to this matter and will be considering all relevant options available to them. Mike Ashley understands fans’ frustrations and would like to reassure them that he has been fully committed to ensuring this takeover process reached completion as he felt it was in the best interests of the club. Mike continues to be fully supportive to Steve Bruce, the players and all the staff and wishes them well for the upcoming season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kitman said: Anyway I assume this means they can be sued for their decision. Or beheaded, preferably 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl 175 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 That must be a huge mistake from Masters, why not just keep with the " the bid was withdrawn" or is it just Ashley chucking a spanner in the works ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9963 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 “The club and it’s owners” hmmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7174 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, Kitman said: How can the PL reject a bid that was withdrawn? Seems odd. Sounds like they are saying it was officially rejected either before or after the withdrawal Interesting development either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20742 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 @Isegrimany thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31209 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 At least Ashley and the buyers have something concrete to take to court now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 9459 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 my head's in a fucking turmoil here. over the last decade and a bit i've wished ashley all manner of hideous deaths including falling in a skip full of razor wire, being sucked in to a jet engine and having a hellfire missile land on his head. the sort of things really that the sciptwriters of hostel and saw might baulk at. now i find myself fully on board with the loveable fat cunt. go on mikey.... bankrupt the premier league and masters and his mates, the fucking corrupt twats. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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