spongebob toonpants 3902 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 It can only mean one thing. Neymar is on his way 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19807 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Plus its against guaranteed future earnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21760 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 right, so we spunking it on? paqueta, diaby and depay please 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9111 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 45 minutes ago, Craig said: Borrowing against future ticket sales should always be considered a risky strategy, but I think it's a calculated risk when you consider the numbers queuing up to buy match tickets. It's not risky for us though is it, it's basically the only collateral we have, only risky if your owners can't back it up, I reckon ours might just be able to. We're stuck with legacy commercial deals, future ones are going to be substantially greater, this IMO is just a FFP friendly mechanism to bring more cash in early because what we "should" have at our disposal right now is way under what it should be all things being equal. Thanks to the FCB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6670 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 42 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: Plus its against guaranteed future earnings. There is no 'guarantee'. You only have to look at the period from March 2020 to May 2021 to understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44109 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 hour ago, wykikitoon said: Paging @Gemmill'sup here brother? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6670 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 18 minutes ago, Toonpack said: It's not risky for us though is it, it's basically the only collateral we have, only risky if your owners can't back it up, I reckon ours might just be able to. We're stuck with legacy commercial deals, future ones are going to be substantially greater, this IMO is just a FFP friendly mechanism to bring more cash in early because what we "should" have at our disposal right now is way under what it should be all things being equal. Thanks to the FCB. It's less of a risk for the reasons you state, but a degree of risk does still remain - the situation Chelsea found themselves in would not have been predicted even 9 months ago. And as I've already said it's clearly a mechanism to bridge the levels of finance we should be attracted had we not been tied in to poor commercial arrangements by the previous owner. That does however beg the question - if the owners can back up the collateral to service the loan should it be necessary, can they not also find the necessary collateral to buy ourselves out of the poor commercial deals we're in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44109 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 They don't want new sponsorship deals yet is my take. We're currently a team that habitually finishes in the bottom half of the table and we'll be restricted to deals that reflect that. I think the delay on sponsorship is in part to lift our profile, have a great season, put down a marker for the club we are now/intend to be, and then we can get a deal that reflects that. I doubt we need to worry too much about what's happening here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9111 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Gemmill said: They don't want new sponsorship deals yet is my take. We're currently a team that habitually finishes in the bottom half of the table and we'll be restricted to deals that reflect that. I think the delay on sponsorship is in part to lift our profile, have a great season, put down a marker for the club we are now/intend to be, and then we can get a deal that reflects that. I doubt we need to worry too much about what's happening here. This 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19807 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 I'm far from worried. I just want to know when Paqueta and Diably will be announced 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19807 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Apparently Man City did this last year. It's just a FFP workaround. 🤷🏻♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19807 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tom said: Apparently Man City did this last year. It's just a FFP workaround. 🤷🏻♂️ Burnsie said it's to do with Cashflow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44109 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Taking a loan out is basically always to do with cashflow. It might be nowt to do with transfers tbf, could be some infrastructure spend. Let's hope we're about to go wild in the aisles though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21760 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 shop till you drop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32606 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 54 minutes ago, Craig said: It's less of a risk for the reasons you state, but a degree of risk does still remain - the situation Chelsea found themselves in would not have been predicted even 9 months ago. And as I've already said it's clearly a mechanism to bridge the levels of finance we should be attracted had we not been tied in to poor commercial arrangements by the previous owner. That does however beg the question - if the owners can back up the collateral to service the loan should it be necessary, can they not also find the necessary collateral to buy ourselves out of the poor commercial deals we're in? You really must be a gaffer as that's what I actually said and you replied that you agreed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30167 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 It seems very strange though to be taking a loan from HSBC though rather than our owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6964 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, ewerk said: It seems very strange though to be taking a loan from HSBC though rather than our owners. Are you allowed to loan yourself money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30167 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Didn’t Chelsea owe Abramovich about £1.5bn? We certainly owed Ashley about £100m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 16992 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 hour ago, ewerk said: It seems very strange though to be taking a loan from HSBC though rather than our owners. “ NUFC borrow money from bank” sounds better than ‘NUFC are given a huge wedge from bonesaw dude” 🤷🏻 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6670 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19807 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 So whats that mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4669 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: So whats that mean? payday loan for rich people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4169 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 We get this seasons tv money as a lumper now rather than over the season/at the end of the season. The bank take the instalments. Hopefully just in time for new sponsorships to come in as we are in the champions league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34725 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Have RTG said this means we’re skint yet? If so I’ll expect Paqueta to sign in the next 7 days 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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