Alex 35095 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 27 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: If someone calls me out for supporting Newcastle United on the basis our owners are cunts then I can call them what I like. In particular re: Oliver Holt. Apart from covering the Joshua fight in Saudi he said you couldn’t blame Joshua for taking the money. To argue you can’t level an accusation of hypocrisy at someone like that is fucking ridiculous 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 9244 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Howmanheyman said: If someone calls me out for supporting Newcastle United on the basis our owners are cunts then I can call them what I like. haven't even read the article yet, but I'm a 100% certain I'm gonna agree with every word of the above. furthermore, if the caller outer happened to be a born for the first time, frothing at the mouth supporter of human rights mackem, I'd deliberately go out me way to antagonise the cunt further. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20168 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Howmanheyman said: If someone calls me out for supporting Newcastle United on the basis our owners are cunts then I can call them what I like. Pod om the Tyne today apparently had someone email in with them wrestling with their conscious and our owners and how can he help. Suggesting giving money to charity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42459 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Alex said: In particular re: Oliver Holt. He’s a spectacular cunt 👍 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 5 hours ago, PaddockLad said: TF: Don't call the media "hypocrites" and other now apparently questionable standpoints... https://true-faith.co.uk/criticism-of-newcastle-united-a-users-guide-to-coping-with-it/ Unreadable. Like one of the Fish’s posts from a few years back. I like the True Faith podcasts but their print journalism is bloody awful. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Yeh I thought the same, somewhere in there he’s trying to make a point as as far as I can ascertain it’s a totally stupid one. As for the print…it’s word soup! I’m not sure what he was trying to say but the simple message should be “Newcastle United fans can enjoy their football club but don’t need to exalt or defend the Saudi Regime to do so”, it could have been a tweet. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7295 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Newcastle purchased by PIF Media and everyone else: "By continuing to support the club you're really just endorsing every misbehaviour of KSA" Newcastle supporters: "I know it's a complex issue but there are a great many other links to KSA well established in other sports and through the UK government and other private ventures, should these be considered in the same way or are you being contradictory?" Media and everyone else: "That's whataboutism, you're just dodging the issue" Chelsea FC seized by UK Government Media and everyone else: "WHATABOUT NEWCASTLE!" 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2967 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35095 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 6 hours ago, OTF said: Newcastle purchased by PIF Media and everyone else: "By continuing to support the club you're really just endorsing every misbehaviour of KSA" Newcastle supporters: "I know it's a complex issue but there are a great many other links to KSA well established in other sports and through the UK government and other private ventures, should these be considered in the same way or are you being contradictory?" Media and everyone else: "That's whataboutism, you're just dodging the issue" Chelsea FC seized by UK Government Media and everyone else: "WHATABOUT NEWCASTLE!" Perfectly summed up 👍🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20168 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 3 hours ago, ohhh_yeah said: What's Matt Lucas doing there as a Little Britain character? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44901 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Thread. Sounds like good news for us. Although admittedly I don't fully understand what's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44901 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Some patter in the thread saying it's the big clubs protecting themselves and therefore bad news for us. But if we progressively inflate income from sponsors as we move up the league (and once we're nearer the top, no one can argue that we don't merit deals as big as any club), then this must work in our favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11282 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Gemmill said: then this must work in our favour. In that case, expect a backlash and rewriting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42459 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, wykikitoon said: What's Matt Lucas doing there as a Little Britain character? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30620 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 6 hours ago, ohhh_yeah said: I have to admit, I’m not terribly confident about the new signing. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 3 hours ago, wykikitoon said: What's Matt Lucas doing there as a Little Britain character? 'Lesley' from Benidorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 3 hours ago, wykikitoon said: What's Matt Lucas doing there as a Little Britain character? who the fuck is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 5 hours ago, Gemmill said: Some patter in the thread saying it's the big clubs protecting themselves and therefore bad news for us. But if we progressively inflate income from sponsors as we move up the league (and once we're nearer the top, no one can argue that we don't merit deals as big as any club), then this must work in our favour. I just don’t get how it works, I also won’t click on anything by that prick Panja so will have to wait for a proper journalist to go through it. Is it simply a year to year thing in that you spend it or lose it? Or can you build up a reserve over time? If it’s the former then it’s even more evidence that none of this charade is to help keep clubs solvent, as that just encourages constant large spending. I also really don’t understand how they’re going to grade who can get what sponsorship. It might seem obvious to say well the sponsors of Man City will clearly pay more as there’s more exposure, but who is to say there’s not company’s out there that would think sponsoring Man City in some way has them lost among a flood of other sponsors whereas sponsoring another side still gives them great exposure and for big money they’d be front and center for that side. It’s just too subjective, so again it would just be a heap of bollocks intended to suit this self appointed “big 6” that want to stay there with no competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, Howay said: I just don’t get how it works, I also won’t click on anything by that prick Panja so will have to wait for a proper journalist to go through it. Is it simply a year to year thing in that you spend it or lose it? Or can you build up a reserve over time? If it’s the former then it’s even more evidence that none of this charade is to help keep clubs solvent, as that just encourages constant large spending. I also really don’t understand how they’re going to grade who can get what sponsorship. It might seem obvious to say well the sponsors of Man City will clearly pay more as there’s more exposure, but who is to say there’s not company’s out there that would think sponsoring Man City in some way has them lost among a flood of other sponsors whereas sponsoring another side still gives them great exposure and for big money they’d be front and center for that side. It’s just too subjective, so again it would just be a heap of bollocks intended to suit this self appointed “big 6” that want to stay there with no competition. The only metric I can think of that would support the existing status quo would be to limit each club by a percentage increase based on its previous year/3 year sponsorship driven revenue generation. The big clubs are already saturated on that front and would be unlikely to exceed a (for instance) 10% increase in previous years sponsorship revenues. We would be particularly affected by it since Ashley did so very little to make a commercial success of us on this front. It would be incredibly unfair of course but no team in the league would be hit by it more than us, I suspect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Hog 523 Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: who the fuck is that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Miller_(athlete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10858 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rayvin said: The only metric I can think of that would support the existing status quo would be to limit each club by a percentage increase based on its previous year/3 year sponsorship driven revenue generation. The big clubs are already saturated on that front and would be unlikely to exceed a (for instance) 10% increase in previous years sponsorship revenues. We would be particularly affected by it since Ashley did so very little to make a commercial success of us on this front. It would be incredibly unfair of course but no team in the league would be hit by it more than us, I suspect. Pretty sure they impose that kind of restriction on wage increase (10% rise a year), but may be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35095 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 30 minutes ago, The Mighty Hog said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Miller_(athlete) Used to see him training all the time at Cramlington High School Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3997 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 If you take it as granted there is no such thing as bad publicity, the you could argue that since the Saudi takeover our media profile is so high we should be able to charge absolute top dollar for any sponsorship 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20168 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, The Mighty Hog said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Miller_(athlete) Try and look again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Yeah I think wykiki is on about whoever is far left. I remember Stephen Miller (i think) from when I was a kid. I'm sure he was part of the Junior Magpies thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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