Newcastle United: Club Sold To PCP - Official

[trooper 940]

Some people suggesting the "relegation clause" could be worth nearly £100 million. That could be the shortfall of the tv revenue money £100 million in the Premiership as oppose to £5/6 million in the Championship.

Edited December 14, 2017 by trooper

[Dr Gloom 21915]

The deal is on, troops, chill.

[Haydnator 45]

Imagine paying attention to anything Michael Martin says.  The bloke is a bell end of the highest order.

[trooper 940]

The Michael Martin tweet got my attention first. But the Sky Sports running with the relegation clause still in place has got me thinking. If we were relegated ( i dont fancy it again) it would mean Amanda could potentially get the club for £200 million something the fat lad will never allow.

[ewerk 30598]

Relegation would mean we're a Championship club two seasons out of three, a yo yo club at best. Plus we wouldn't have Rafa at the helm next season. It would massively reduce our value.

 

Mike Ashley is a betting man though.

[trooper 940]

If it doesn't happen now he'll put a massive spin on it, he'll be back on Sky Sports  "they wanted me to gamble a£100 million on not going down. Now i like a flutter as you know but even that was too much for me" That way he paints Amanda & PCP as the bad guys he's an absolute b'stard i thought we eere going to be rid of him now im jot so sure.

[The Fish 10856]

You may as well sleep in a floatation tank. It'd save on laundry bills mate.

[Monkeys Fist 42412]

 

[Rayvin 5217]

So after all the optimism of the other day, we're back where we started again  Impressive stuff.

[The Fish 10856]

12 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

So after all the optimism of the other day, we're back where we started again  Impressive stuff.

I'm not, I'm plotting a steady course. And, as always, giggling at you lot lurching from mania to sorrow.

[Dr Gloom 21915]

2 hours ago, trooper said:

The Michael Martin tweet got my attention first. But the Sky Sports running with the relegation clause still in place has got me thinking. If we were relegated ( i dont fancy it again) it would mean Amanda could potentially get the club for £200 million something the fat lad will never allow.

 

the deal does include a relegation clause where fatty has to pay her some comp, yes. 

[Dr Gloom 21915]

37 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

So after all the optimism of the other day, we're back where we started again  Impressive stuff.

 

nothing has changed. the deal is still close. 

 

it won't happen until after the window but ashley will release funds underwritten by stavley. and it will be sizeably more than the £15m including wages or whatever miserly amount he was prepared to throw in. 

[Rayvin 5217]

I don't see why we can't just get an external loan tbh - for all his talk about not having available income, what drawback would there be to a bit of external gearing?

[ewerk 30598]

High interest rates for one.

[trooper 940]

29 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

the deal does include a relegation clause where fatty has to pay her some comp, yes. 

According to what Sky Sports were reporting last night

[Rayvin 5217]

22 minutes ago, ewerk said:

High interest rates for one.

 

Yeah but for the sake of ensuring safety, it's probably worth it. Ashley has made out that his constraint is available funds on a personal basis - but a high interest rate isn't worth getting relegated over. Hard to imagine Stavely being put off by it either.

[Alex 35077]

Ashley just lurches from one fuck up to another with NUFC doesn't he?

[The Fish 10856]

9 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

 

Yeah but for the sake of ensuring safety, it's probably worth it. Ashley has made out that his constraint is available funds on a personal basis - but a high interest rate isn't worth getting relegated over. Hard to imagine Stavely being put off by it either.

Aye but spending £30m of his own money safe in the knowledge that expenditure is covered by PCP, makes a lot more sense than gambling that the £30m of his own money would see some return in the future from success on the pitch, or in the transfer market? Surely?

[Rayvin 5217]

Just now, The Fish said:

Aye but spending £30m of his own money safe in the knowledge that expenditure is covered by PCP, makes a lot more sense than gambling that the £30m of his own money would see some return in the future from success on the pitch, or in the transfer market? Surely?

 

I was thinking more that we may need to spend a higher amount than £30m tbh.

[The Fish 10856]

1 minute ago, Rayvin said:

 

I was thinking more that we may need to spend a higher amount than £30m tbh.

Fair enough, but the fact remains that whatever the sum is, it's underwritten by PCP. If he literally cannot stump up £50m or whatever, then I'm convinced there'll be ways that PCP can get the money they want to spend, to Benitez. Ways that do not include Ashley phoning Wonga for a loan.

[Rayvin 5217]

The thing is though, gearing is actually a financially sound strategy. A bit awkward for PCP maybe given that they don't actually own the club yet, but if they can get a better return on £50m by investing it in a high yield business or stock, than they would lose by agreeing to an external loan for NUFC, then they would/should do it.

 

This is why loads of big companies take on debt. Their own money works harder for them elsewhere.

 

That said, maybe it's less appealing in football due to the volatility of what happens to club incomes due to relegations etc.

Edited December 15, 2017 by Rayvin

[The Fish 10856]

6 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

The thing is though, gearing is actually a financially sound strategy. A bit awkward for PCP maybe given that they don't actually own the club yet, but if they can get a better return on £50m by investing it in a high yield business or stock, than they would lose by agreeing to an external loan for NUFC, then they would/should do it.

 

This is why loads of big companies take on debt. Their own money works harder for them elsewhere.

 

That said, maybe it's less appealing in football due to the volatility of what happens to club incomes due to relegations etc.

 

There's the rub.

[ewerk 30598]

Man United aside I don't think that there's any club in the PL with the level of external debt you're talking about.

[Park Life 71]

What  is our debt to Ashley 121m?

[Dr Gloom 21915]

unfortunately, i am going to have to retract my bullish comments.