wykikitoon 19878 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 hours ago, ewerk said: Especially when you consider the status of the club nowadays. Ashley bought a club that had qualified for Europe in 5 out of the previous 6 seasons. We've qualified once since he took over. We're a much weakened club. It's sickening when you see it like that. Basically he's fucked as ain't he? It wouldn't surprise me if his clause is 'Continue free sports direct advertising for the next 10 years' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Whatever happens, we'll be the last to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdansmith 3207 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 12 hours ago, ewerk said: He bought us for £134m and our debt to him is £127m. He should be over the moon to get any sort of profit from us. I wonder how much he has took out of the club over the ten years ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10701 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 13 hours ago, trooper said: is it the average value per player ? Yeah. It's not wholly reliably mind. Market value isn't exactly a cold hard fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30240 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Tdansmith said: I wonder how much he has took out of the club over the ten years ? At times he has repaid parts of his loan and he’s gotten free advertising for Sports Direct but aside from that he hasn’t taken a penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 The free tv advertising over a decade must be worth a fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30240 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 I wouldn't say a fortune but it has put us at a disadvantage over other clubs in that it's an income stream we've been unable to fully exploit and therefore has had a negative impact on club finances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdansmith 3207 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Craig Hope who covers Newcastle United for The Mail says via his Twitter account: ‘If Amanda Staveley returns with offer of £300m for NUFC then Mike Ashley will listen & it is likely that deal can be done’. https://www.themag.co.uk/2017/12/newcastle-takeover-likely-deal-can-done-ashley-waits-amanda-staveley-improved-offer-newcastle-united/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Craig Hit and Hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdansmith 3207 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 "Its the hope that kills you" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) He wants her to increase the offer by 20% its a big ask. Thats a decent premiership striker Edited December 6, 2017 by trooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30240 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 It depends what she thinks the club is actually worth. She was always going to lowball him from his valuation of £380m. She offers £250m and then ups it to £300m then it feels like a win for him as he got £50m more than she was originally offering. £300m would be a fair offer IMO, assuming we stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30240 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 £250m now and another £50m if we survive would be a sensible compromise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10701 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 1 minute ago, ewerk said: £250m now and another £50m if we survive would be a sensible compromise. What about indemnity clauses and his Sports Direct signage? could they be significant blockers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30240 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 If we're not getting any money for them then they could be ripped down following the signing of any deal. Unless the provision of advertising is specifically agreed in the deal. The risk of HMRC fines will be factored into the offer price. I can't see any fine being earth shatteringly large. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10701 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 39 minutes ago, ewerk said: If we're not getting any money for them then they could be ripped down following the signing of any deal. Unless the provision of advertising is specifically agreed in the deal. The risk of HMRC fines will be factored into the offer price. I can't see any fine being earth shatteringly large. Aye but would Staveley's reasonable insistence on indemnity clauses put the kibosh on the deal? and would Ashley be so brazen as to insist that SD signs stay up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30240 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) I'm not au fait enough with multi-million pound takeover deals to know whether indemnity clauses would be reasonable. And I can't imagine any sort of deal whereby the SD signage remains. Edited December 6, 2017 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13793 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 HF is making a bold prediction that literally covers every single base possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30240 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 So he knows about as much as any journalist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Why would you even bother tweeting that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Attention seeker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Ayatollah Hermione said: HF is making a bold prediction that literally covers every single base possible. harsh...but fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 He's stepped down from his unequivocal stance that it was never happening tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30240 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Just now, adios said: He's stepped down from his unequivocal stance that it was never happening tbf. Nope, he's still maintaining that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 wtf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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