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Just the £131m loss for Man U last season, which brings their losses for the last three seasons to £313m.

 

Still, I'm sure they were absolutely compliant with PSR and can continue spending like a drunken sailor.

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16 minutes ago, Sonatine said:

 

I knew Le Tissier was a fruitcake, but I didn't know this fella was away team too.  What are they drinking down on the South Coast? :idiot:

 

 

 

 

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Paul Merson is one Sky contract extension away from posting one of these. 

 

 

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14 hours ago, Sonatine said:

 

I knew Le Tissier was a fruitcake, but I didn't know this fella was away team too.  What are they drinking down on the South Coast? :idiot:

Aye Lambert’s being doing his even stupider version of Le Tissier thing for a while now. I wouldn’t even call it a grift, as he’s sincere. Another one for whom covid and all the conspiracy theories that emerged sent him completely beyond the point if no return. He’s thick as pig’s shit even by the standards of the lot who think ‘they’ control everything 

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35 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

only 59, he came out of nowhere that world cup to win the golden boot, if i remember correctly 

He sort of did. In that it was just typical of how insular English football was back then. I.e. you wouldn’t have known about someone like Scifo or Hagi in this country before the tournament. He’d already been at Juve for a year. But he wasn’t expected to be the star. Vialli was the one expected to main man upfront. He got injured (although it was speculated by some Vialli bottled it, as the physios couldn’t find an issue, but it was nearly 35 years ago too so it’s not like the technology they have now). Vialli was fit later in the competition but it was Schillaci and the young Baggio (who’d also recently gone to Juventus) that ended up starting in the latter stages after they both grabbed their opportunities. He later ended up at Inter but never really hit the heights / lived up to that promise. There was an amusing incident a few years back where one of Italy’s most wanted, some mafia boss, was arrested visiting a hospital at the same time as him. In Sicily I think. It wasn’t stated explicitly but the speculation was they both used the same plastic surgeon 

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37 minutes ago, Alex said:

He sort of did. In that it was just typical of how insular English football was back then. I.e. you wouldn’t have known about someone like Scifo or Hagi in this country before the tournament. He’d already been at Juve for a year. But he wasn’t expected to be the star. Vialli was the one expected to main man upfront. He got injured (although it was speculated by some Vialli bottled it, as the physios couldn’t find an issue, but it was nearly 35 years ago too so it’s not like the technology they have now). Vialli was fit later in the competition but it was Schillaci and the young Baggio (who’d also recently gone to Juventus) that ended up starting in the latter stages after they both grabbed their opportunities. He later ended up at Inter but never really hit the heights / lived up to that promise. There was an amusing incident a few years back where one of Italy’s most wanted, some mafia boss, was arrested visiting a hospital at the same time as him. In Sicily I think. It wasn’t stated explicitly but the speculation was they both used the same plastic surgeon 


Yeah, mainstream interest in Italian football was still to take off. The big names back then, aside from the ex-pats was Gullit & Van Basten but that was thanks largely to starring roles at Euro 88. 

Absolutely tragic to think both Vialli and Schillaci have now gone

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1 minute ago, Craig said:


Yeah, mainstream interest in Italian football was still to take off. The big names back then, aside from the ex-pats was Gullit & Van Basten but that was thanks largely to starring roles at Euro 88. 

Absolutely tragic to think both Vialli and Schillaci have now gone

I was just thinking about Paolo Rossi too. I know it was an earlier tournament (82) where he made an even bigger impact.  But he was only a bit older when passed away a few years back 

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I absolutely loved seeing the radge, bulging eyed Sicilian reeling away after he scored wearing one of the most simple but classy looking silky azzurri kits ever. If Gazza still played for us he'd have been my favourite number 19 at Italia 90 but he'd fucked off to Spurs so Schillacci takes the honours. I actually ordered that shirt from toffs a few years ago and the number was never going to be anything other than 19. (I wouldn't normally bother with numbers but the italics of the numbers on those Italian shirts just went together didn't they?)

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8 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said:

I absolutely loved seeing the radge, bulging eyed Sicilian reeling away after he scored wearing one of the most simple but classy looking silky azzurri kits ever. If Gazza still played for us he'd have been my favourite number 19 at Italia 90 but he'd fucked off to Spurs so Schillacci takes the honours. I actually ordered that shirt from toffs a few years ago and the number was never going to be anything other than 19. (I wouldn't normally bother with numbers but the italics of the numbers on those Italian shirts just went together didn't they?)

You don’t think of Mexico 86 as much because Italy had such a poor tournament. But the 82/86/90 Italy kits were all beautifully stylish and simple. And yeah, that was a proper iconic celebration. He’d definitely had a paper round as he looked rock hard with his wiry physique and (to me then at least) much older than his years appearance. I don’t suppose growing up in a poor part of Palermo in the 70s was particularly easy going like :lol: 

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25 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/jun/15/italia-90-world-cup-special

 

An article talking about how great Italian 90 was.

 

And OF COURSE there's a link within it to an article by that joyless mackem cunt Jonathan Wilson entitled "England's performance at Italia 90 is venerated too much" :lol:

 

Standard stuff from the mackem misanthrope. 
You can possibly tell I’ve just read it but ‘All Played Out’ (later republished as ‘One Night in Turin’) by Pete Davies is a great read. It’s mainly about England plus how they qualified. Davies had almost exclusive access to the players, management etc. He was entrusted on the basis none of anything he learnt would come out until the book was published (December of that year I think). But he also travelled about with the fans a bit and used his connections, friendships and press access to go to as many games as he could. As well watching games in bars and cafes in Italy. It’s a bit of a shuddering reminder of how long ago it was and how much football and the world has changed. But the way it isn’t sugarcoated is also why it’s so good. What’s also apparent is what a shower of cunts most of the English press were. Not just the lads from the red tops either. 

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For me the preceding two world cups were better quality than 1990 but 1990 remains my all time favourite. I was about to turn 21, had just left home; freedom, disposable income on a comparatively huge scale, booze, women, music… it was unforgettable… 

 


 

I’d never heard of Schillacci at the beginning of the tournament for the precise reasons others have mentioned. Mancini and Vialli had played at Euro 88 so this lad was for me the NKOTB. He was sensational though, I think it’s a pity Italy didn’t win it tbh, but the semi final placed them in Naples and not Rome and they were up against Argentina with Maradonna. The Neopolitans in the crowd basically backed the Argies (lots of North v South hatred in Italy in those days) making for an odd atmosphere. Despite Toto nicking what looked like a winner the Italian goalie dropped a cross and Caniggia scored an equaliser, it went to pens and Italy were out… 

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