Generic small time football blather thread FOREVER

[LondonBlue 1021]

7 hours ago, toonotl said:

Am I missing something? Why is Vincent Kompany considered hot property? He's proven capable of getting a Championship yo-yo club promoted and proven incapable of achieving anything close to keeping them in the PL. I get the point that he has some credit as a disciple of Pep but really (on the basis of current results) has he done much to separate himself from other high-profile former players turned managers?

 

Plenty of bang average managers have been promoted out of the Championship on less resources than Burnley have at their disposal.

 

Vinny is bang average as a manager at best. But his players were bang average too. From a Man City point of view, seeing him tested at elite level will show if he can do it with elite players. 

 

[Dazzler 11682]

2 hours ago, The Fish said:

I can only think that his preferred style works with a dominant side, that's why Burnley did well in the Championship. But he didn't evolve it to work when they're not the biggest fish in the pond. 

Aye, his team tried to dominate possession in the premier league because they dominated possession in the championship. Give him a good side and apply those tactics and he'll probably do quite well IMO. They were quite pleasant to watch I thought, just weren't good enough to adapt when coming up against better sides. He'd probably do well at Bayern.

[Gemmill 49704]

 

 

Pwopa nawty! 

 

 

[PaddockLad 18954]

Life ban. Trying to influence the course of football matches for his or others financial gain

[Holden McGroin 7530]

That’s the Man City deal off again then.

[Gemmill 49704]

Hope they don't come for Bruno.

 

Paqueta has put out a statement saying he's contesting the charges, so we don't need to wait til June 3rd for his response. 

[ewerk 33086]

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Paqueta denies any wrongdoing and any knowledge of the suspicious bets, which have been traced to Paqueta Island, off the coast of Rio de Janiero. 

 

If I were trying to run an international spot fixing scam I probably wouldn't base it on an island that shares my surname.

[Renton 23585]

3 minutes ago, ewerk said:

 

If I were trying to run an international spot fixing scam I probably wouldn't base it on an island that shares my surname.

 

You're called Paddy Paqueta? 

[Gemmill 49704]

Paqueta Tayto's. 

[NJS 4557]

That's a lot worse than what Tonali was charged with and he's pleading not guilty. 

 

He's fucked if he's found guilty. 

[Gemmill 49704]

Is he being charged with both placing a bet AND then trying to make that bet pay out by getting carded? 

 

Bruno would be the fucking MASTER at this, given he can clearly turn the bookings on and off at will. 

[NJS 4557]

Yeah I think the key word in the charges is "influence". 

[ewerk 33086]

Nah, they aren’t saying that he’s placed any bets himself. He’s probably doing it to benefit friends and family back in Brazil.

[Toonpack 11324]

Seems Man U are sniffing around McKenna (as well as Chelsea, Brighton) week before cup final, great timing

[Gemmill 49704]

Guardian reporting that West Ham think his career will be over if found guilty. Seems wild that would end your career when Mason Greenwood still has one. 

[Kid Dynamite 7605]

30 minutes ago, ewerk said:

Nah, they aren’t saying that he’s placed any bets himself. He’s probably doing it to benefit friends and family back in Brazil.

That's mega ban territory 

[ewerk 33086]

Aye, there was a non-league player banned for 10 years for doing it once, never mind five times.

[wykikitoon 22721]

Surely the FA know West Ham won us the world Cup so he should be allowed to get away with breaking rules. 

[Isegrim 10326]

45 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

Surely the FA know West Ham won us the world Cup so he should be allowed to get away with breaking rules. 

Same old Hammers, always cheating…

 

It will only get suspicious if the case against Paqueta gets decided by an Azerbaijani.

[Holden McGroin 7530]

How long did Grobelaar get?

 

 

[Kid Dynamite 7605]

17 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

How long did Grobelaar get?

 

 

He was never found guilty

[Dazzler 11682]

12 hours ago, Gemmill said:

Guardian reporting that West Ham think his career will be over if found guilty. Seems wild that would end your career when Mason Greenwood still has one. 

It should be over if he's found guilty. He's trying to influence games for financial gain, he should never be trusted on a football pitch again tbf. That said, Greenwood should be in prison on the nonce wing not playing in Spain.

[Gemmill 49704]

I don't agree with that. It's almost certain that he didn't think getting carded was anything like trying to actually affect a result - it isn't really only in an instance when you also accidentally get sent off. He's not booting it into his own net or anything. 

 

He's been incredibly stupid but I don't think it should end your career.

[Isegrim 10326]

26 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

I don't agree with that. It's almost certain that he didn't think getting carded was anything like trying to actually affect a result - it isn't really only in an instance when you also accidentally get sent off. He's not booting it into his own net or anything. 

 

He's been incredibly stupid but I don't think it should end your career.

It still shows that he had things on his mind which had nothing to do with the game of football itself. He is totally undermining the trust in sporting behaviour. Every of his actions will come under consideration especially with the amount of options you can have bets on all over the world.

 

We had it in Germany with referees and I think the only credible way to handle these actions even if minor is to punish the culprits very hard.

Edited May 24, 2024 by Isegrim

[The Fish 11313]

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