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2 minutes ago, NJS said:

Fucking hell, I thought I hated the scouse cunts but I now find out I'm an apprentice on his first day compared to the boss that is London Blue.

 

Hats off... 

 

probably best not to read the liverpool thread in bluemoon's general football discussion section. it'll make your eyes bleed.

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42 minutes ago, Craig said:

I don't want to appear disrespectful to a memorial service for Munich, but this is a fucking travesty.

 

 

Dunno who I hold in greater contempt, him for singing, or you for sharing it.

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2 hours ago, LondonBlue said:

 

And how many of the scousers were complaining when liverpool were drifting in the old second division with no European honours and no obvious future.

 

so i can't stand liverpool and feel like a rant ....

 

In 1970 Liverpool were no more successful than City or Spurs(8 major honours each) and those clubs both had a European major honour but Liverpool did not.  Their era of domination began with the Littlewoods money.

1st english team of bought in mercenaries (Scots)

 

Liverpool are a completely manufactured club. Their founder, John Houlding, kicked Everton out of Anfield and therefore had a ground but no team. So he bought a load of players, mainly Scottish ones. He wanted to call them Everton as well but wasn't allowed so he called them Liverpool instead

 

Liverpools beer brewer owner, John Houlding upped the rent of the ground to Everton. Everton had to leave. Houlding had beer to sell and a ground to fill… starts a new club, pays mercenary Scot’s to come south and create team, decides to call team Liverpool. Beer washing, and clearly current day Liverpool fans have forgotten their origins (or the repeat of the 50’s/60’s)

 

Liverpool were given a free stadium.

 

Houlding loaned shed loads of money to LFC and when he died it was due to be repaid to the family. However, the family realised that the club wasn't in a position to pay back the loans and any attempt to force them to do so would result in the bankruptcy of the club and the total loss of the money owed anyway. So they gave the LFC a free pass by writing off the debt.

 

After several decades of not winning much and being relegated, the Moores family pumped sugar daddy money into the club to buy them promotion, a new team and trophies. 

 

Blood of 39 Italians on their hands. Liverpool should actually still be banned from the Champions League, they killed but got off with a 5 year ban 

 

Hacked a rival club’s computer database


Failed UEFA FFP in 2013 but failed to qualify for Europe so fell outside UEFA's remit for investigation and punishment.
 
Would have failed again in 2015 until they magicked out of the air alleged 'stadium development expenses' of £35 million from years before for the non-existent Stanley Park Project that enabled them to offset against FFP losses.  

 

Their shirt sponsors are convicted money launderers, aiding criminal organisations and terrorists link

  • The Houthi rebels are responsible for many atrocities in Yemen including blockading food aid at the port of Hodeidah for starving Yemeni civilians.
  • The Houthi rebels are financed and armed by the Iranian government.
  • Standard Chartered have been find a cumulative total of $1.5 billion for repeatedly money laundering for various dodgy organisations but principally for the rogue Iranian government.
  • Liverpool FC's main sponsors are Standard Chartered. The sponsorship started in 2010 and will run until at least 2023 which makes it LFC's second longest ever sponsorship.
  • Liverpool FC, by 2023, will have received £280 million in blood money from Standard Chartered. 

Ditto their sleeve sponsors. 

 

killed a Crystal Palace fan

 

Unprecedented debt and asset stripping, fraudulent sponsorship dealings and accused of breaking FFP rules, unprecedented debt, debt, debt, accused of breaking FFP rules, can’t run the club well enough to be able to sort contracts out for players leaving them potentially jobless. 

 

Their owners have been caught cheating at baseball in the US. 


Liverpool owners forcing local residents out link

 

bricking City coaches whereas City fans impeccably observed their Hillsborough ceremony. 

 

hold the record for the longest ban in Europe by an English team 

 

Liverpool weren't even the biggest/most successful club in their own city at the start of the 60s, never mind biggest club in England. That was Liverpool before they were "financially doped" with dirty gambling money.

 

Some Manchester City v Liverpool bits ....

  • Citys 10th highest league crowd is 71,364, Liverpools best ever crowd is 61,905. ( City even had 69,463 when in division two against burnley )

  • City won the FA cup 61 years before Liverpool

  • City won the league cup 12 years before Liverpool

  • City won a cup in Europe 3 years before Liverpool

  • City fans have never murdered any other fans.

  • In 1970 Liverpool were no more successful than City (8 major honours each) and City had a European honour but Liverpool did not.

City were the first of the so called big 6 (apologies) to have won all 3 major domestic trophies and a major European trophy.

  • 1970 City
  • 1971 Chelsea, Spurs
  • 1981 Liverpool
  • 1987 Arsenal
  • 1992 United

 

rant over 

 

 

Talking of doping, don't forget most of their current players have asthma and HAVE to take inhalers.

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2 hours ago, LondonBlue said:

 

And how many of the scousers were complaining when liverpool were drifting in the old second division with no European honours and no obvious future.

 

so i can't stand liverpool and feel like a rant ....

 

In 1970 Liverpool were no more successful than City or Spurs(8 major honours each) and those clubs both had a European major honour but Liverpool did not.  Their era of domination began with the Littlewoods money.

1st english team of bought in mercenaries (Scots)

 

Liverpool are a completely manufactured club. Their founder, John Houlding, kicked Everton out of Anfield and therefore had a ground but no team. So he bought a load of players, mainly Scottish ones. He wanted to call them Everton as well but wasn't allowed so he called them Liverpool instead

 

Liverpools beer brewer owner, John Houlding upped the rent of the ground to Everton. Everton had to leave. Houlding had beer to sell and a ground to fill… starts a new club, pays mercenary Scot’s to come south and create team, decides to call team Liverpool. Beer washing, and clearly current day Liverpool fans have forgotten their origins (or the repeat of the 50’s/60’s)

 

Liverpool were given a free stadium.

 

Houlding loaned shed loads of money to LFC and when he died it was due to be repaid to the family. However, the family realised that the club wasn't in a position to pay back the loans and any attempt to force them to do so would result in the bankruptcy of the club and the total loss of the money owed anyway. So they gave the LFC a free pass by writing off the debt.

 

After several decades of not winning much and being relegated, the Moores family pumped sugar daddy money into the club to buy them promotion, a new team and trophies. 

 

Blood of 39 Italians on their hands. Liverpool should actually still be banned from the Champions League, they killed but got off with a 5 year ban 

 

Hacked a rival club’s computer database


Failed UEFA FFP in 2013 but failed to qualify for Europe so fell outside UEFA's remit for investigation and punishment.
 
Would have failed again in 2015 until they magicked out of the air alleged 'stadium development expenses' of £35 million from years before for the non-existent Stanley Park Project that enabled them to offset against FFP losses.  

 

Their shirt sponsors are convicted money launderers, aiding criminal organisations and terrorists link

  • The Houthi rebels are responsible for many atrocities in Yemen including blockading food aid at the port of Hodeidah for starving Yemeni civilians.
  • The Houthi rebels are financed and armed by the Iranian government.
  • Standard Chartered have been find a cumulative total of $1.5 billion for repeatedly money laundering for various dodgy organisations but principally for the rogue Iranian government.
  • Liverpool FC's main sponsors are Standard Chartered. The sponsorship started in 2010 and will run until at least 2023 which makes it LFC's second longest ever sponsorship.
  • Liverpool FC, by 2023, will have received £280 million in blood money from Standard Chartered. 

Ditto their sleeve sponsors. 

 

killed a Crystal Palace fan

 

Unprecedented debt and asset stripping, fraudulent sponsorship dealings and accused of breaking FFP rules, unprecedented debt, debt, debt, accused of breaking FFP rules, can’t run the club well enough to be able to sort contracts out for players leaving them potentially jobless. 

 

Their owners have been caught cheating at baseball in the US. 


Liverpool owners forcing local residents out link

 

bricking City coaches whereas City fans impeccably observed their Hillsborough ceremony. 

 

hold the record for the longest ban in Europe by an English team 

 

Liverpool weren't even the biggest/most successful club in their own city at the start of the 60s, never mind biggest club in England. That was Liverpool before they were "financially doped" with dirty gambling money.

 

Some Manchester City v Liverpool bits ....

  • Citys 10th highest league crowd is 71,364, Liverpools best ever crowd is 61,905. ( City even had 69,463 when in division two against burnley )

  • City won the FA cup 61 years before Liverpool

  • City won the league cup 12 years before Liverpool

  • City won a cup in Europe 3 years before Liverpool

  • City fans have never murdered any other fans.

  • In 1970 Liverpool were no more successful than City (8 major honours each) and City had a European honour but Liverpool did not.

City were the first of the so called big 6 (apologies) to have won all 3 major domestic trophies and a major European trophy.

  • 1970 City
  • 1971 Chelsea, Spurs
  • 1981 Liverpool
  • 1987 Arsenal
  • 1992 United

 

rant over 

 


That level of detailed utterly unrepentant bitterness is why you fit in well here :good: 

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5 hours ago, Alex said:

Clubs like Liverpool and Forest had a financial advantage over almost all of their rivals in the 70s and 80s too. In fact it’s been going on since the maximum wage was abolished. It’s portrayed now like their achievements were noble and fair. I’m not saying they didn’t achieve great things but it’s not how it’s often painted. 

Aye, agree with all of Andrew and KCG’s points too. If fair play was the actual intention of these rules it wouldn’t be fucking tied to individual club P&L over the prior few years and things like that, those metrics literally entrench inequalities which creates a system where clubs then have to either bend rules, or outperform for a number of years to overcome. It’s very purely meant to lock in the clubs that were up there at the time the rules were put into place, those clubs of course got there by having the most money and spending the most money in the years leading up to that ruling.

 

It’s why I find all the incredulous and sensationalist headlines about Man City to be fucking tedious. They’re portrayed as bad guys but then you have Liverpool and Manchester United both with American owners being sponsored for every fucking item of the businesses down to official match day bus tyre sponsor and shite like that, often from American company’s, and we’re all told it’s all above board :lol: give over man. 

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That’s why I think it won’t negatively impact us. We could have ‘legitimate’ deals which are for all the tricks Man Utd etc have pulled (official travel neck pillow partners and all that shite). The precedent has been set. As long as it’s a real company (and there’s loads of those catering to the luxury market in the Middle East) then they can’t say a thing. That’s before you have the likes of adidas and Aramco paying top dollar to buy our kit manufacturers and sponsors.  The potential to increase our revenue is ridiculous 

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Makes you wonder if those at the club had a sense that something like this was coming down the line for Man City which is why we haven't gone all Montgomery Brewster. 

 

 

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Just now, The Fish said:

Makes you wonder if those at the club had a sense that something like this was coming down the line for Man City which is why we haven't gone all Montgomery Brewster. 

 

 

I think they knew they’d be really closely scrutinised and how much the PL looks after the interests of the likes of Man Utd and Liverpool tbh

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1 minute ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:

We’ll balance the books by selling hot prospect, Jeff Hendrick in the summer

I look forward to the days we replace Man Utd in selling our deadwood to the likes of Watford and Sunderland for stupid sums. 

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The timing of the announcement of  the charges might have been surprising but the investigations have been ongoing for several years. There was always a likelihood that the accusations will be brought on the table.

The scrutinising of new commercial deals was probably a major topic when the “big” clubs altered the so called ffp regulations to make sure that we can’t suddenly create new income to threaten the existing order.

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12 minutes ago, The Fish said:

I look forward to the days we replace Man Utd in selling our deadwood to the likes of Watford and Sunderland for stupid sums. 

We've already started, we've just replaced Watford with Nottingham Forest. 

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