Generic small time football blather thread FOREVER

[RobElliott 1791]

41 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

Mate sent me Everton new ground layout. 

 

Was this mate Gemmil by any chance?

[acrossthepond 979]

Laughed at "Let Me Out" and "Sock Robbers Corner." I don't get all the Wales references though, maybe someone can clue me in? 

[Howmanheyman 36401]

2 hours ago, acrossthepond said:

Laughed at "Let Me Out" and "Sock Robbers Corner." I don't get all the Wales references though, maybe someone can clue me in? 

 

I'd guess some of their fans, especially of a certain age, are from north Wales?

[PaddockLad 18940]

1 hour ago, Howmanheyman said:

 

I'd guess some of their fans, especially of a certain age, are from north Wales?

Yeah their 2/3 years of success in the 80s seemed to get them a disproportionate amount of followers from North Wales ( and Cumbria iirc) Speaking as someone of that age from a similar predominantly rural  wasteland I can completely sympathise. The difference is that I personally just didn’t bother with the 2/3 years of success bit. Still waiting  

[Dr Gloom 23517]

14 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

Yeah their 2/3 years of success in the 80s seemed to get them a disproportionate amount of followers from North Wales ( and Cumbria iirc) Speaking as someone of that age from a similar predominantly rural  wasteland I can completely sympathise. The difference is that I personally just didn’t bother with the 2/3 years of success bit. Still waiting  

Do you reckon we’ll see us win something before we die?

 

I reckon this board dies before we win anything. We can’t even get the world’s richest owners at the right time

[Holden McGroin 7506]

13 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

Do you reckon we’ll see us win something before we die?

 

I reckon this board dies before we win anything. We can’t even get the world’s richest owners at the right time

I said at the time but the feel good factor of Howes first full season will never get recaptured for a long time. It was similar (but not quite as good) as Keegans takeover.

[thebrokendoll 10217]

1 hour ago, PaddockLad said:

Yeah their 2/3 years of success in the 80s seemed to get them a disproportionate amount of followers from North Wales ( and Cumbria iirc) Speaking as someone of that age from a similar predominantly rural  wasteland I can completely sympathise. The difference is that I personally just didn’t bother with the 2/3 years of success bit. Still waiting  

 

I suppose it depends on when entered the fray. '82t o '84  was an absolutely rip roaring success in comparison to the 4 years that preceded it.

mind you, it didn't take long to unravel again.

Edited 31 minutes ago by thebrokendoll

[Dr Gloom 23517]

40 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

I said at the time but the feel good factor of Howes first full season will never get recaptured for a long time. It was similar (but not quite as good) as Keegans takeover.

if we’re allowed to spend again those times could return. That season we qualified for champions league was driven by a smattering of investment and the pure feelgood vibes in the ground after years of neglect under Ashley.
 

PSR applied the breaks on and off the pitch but if we can find a way to invest properly we’ll start dreaming again. We’re not a million miles away now. We have a core of good players. If only we were allowed to spend the owners’ money we could  turn a half decent team into a squad that can compete. 
 

But this being Newcastle, you have to price in some form of crisis before that ever happens. 

Edited 22 minutes ago by Dr Gloom

[Rayvin 5911]

At the heart of it, what is going 'wrong' for the side at the moment? Do we defend poorly, are we low energy, is it individual errors, complacency? Have other teams just worked us out?

[wykikitoon 22678]

Just now, Rayvin said:

At the heart of it, what is going 'wrong' for the side at the moment? Do we defend poorly, are we low energy, is it individual errors, complacency? Have other teams just worked us out?

 

IMO It all boils down to lack of investment over the last 3 transfer windows.  Lack of squad depth, lack of competition for places.

[thebrokendoll 10217]

3 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

 

IMO It all boils down to lack of investment over the last 3 transfer windows.  Lack of squad depth, lack of competition for places.

 

half the players on the pitch at full time on sunday were heading to or had already arrived at their mid 30s

Edited 5 minutes ago by thebrokendoll

[Rayvin 5911]

3 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

 

IMO It all boils down to lack of investment over the last 3 transfer windows.  Lack of squad depth, lack of competition for places.

 

Yep I agree fully on that too, I just wondered if on a technical level (i.e. within the games themselves) there was any recurring tactical deficiency or issue?

[Dr Gloom 23517]

3 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

At the heart of it, what is going 'wrong' for the side at the moment? Do we defend poorly, are we low energy, is it individual errors, complacency? Have other teams just worked us out?

lack of depth is the main thing. You can criticise Howe for being overly loyal to certain players but it’s a result of having a bench he doesn’t trust. We have about 5-6 quality first team players and a handful leftover from the Ashley era who have been outperforming for a couple of years. The squad is also ageing out which is exactly what happens when you go a couple of seasons without proper investment.