Generic small time football blather thread FOREVER

[Gemmill 46105]

 

[Howmanheyman 33921]

34 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

 

Mrs Neville recognises that particular Gary Neville moan.

 

[Gemmill 46105]

The Gary Goalgasm. 

[PaddockLad 17704]

 

 

Can someone contradict me here if I say this is probably good for us? #unqualifiedopnion 🤷🏻‍♂️

[wykikitoon 20860]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cpeg7jq4xg7o

 

[wykikitoon 20860]

Thats for non pay wall

[toonotl 3116]

This seems like it would be good in the short term but bad in the long term.

 

I hope that football doesn't go down this route but it seems like the Americanised bullshit is here to stay and only getting worse.  It means that teams with basically no supporter base will potentially become juggernauts and compete for titles on the basis of zero history or support (except for bandwagon jumping nonces) because their competition is hampered. An example is the Melbourne Storm in the Australian NRL. They're a wonderfully run club that poaches numerous Queensland players from the Brisbane region and has dominated the upper end of the competition ladder for a decade or more on the back of a good coach, solid planning and preferential treatment from the NRL administrators in the interests of "breaking into the Victorian market". Sounds great to have more competitive teams. But that's not how it plays out in practice.

 

Melbourne Storm is strong because a big problem for them has been removed, i.e., market share relative to the other teams and pathways for local talent to come into the team. A salary cap allows them to sidestep these issues. But the benefits they enjoy are not diminished, i.e., support from the game's administrators, a nice place to live for prospective players, an experienced coach for whom players want to play, a recent history of success that draws players there on the chance of winning silverware, etc., the list goes on.

 

And you might say that some (or even all) of these benefits are earned. But so is a revenue advantage in the broader sense of club history and development (at least in the vast majority of cases). So why is one type of advantage deemed unfair and others are allowed to remain? It's obviously because a "salary cap" system is really just a marketing gimmick to promote a "competitive" competition. But I would argue that it isn't any more competitive than other sports. The same teams come to dominate for years or even decades because of factors that are not dependent on a salary cap.

 

A salary cap system, for me, produces an artificial and largely illusionary equality because, although money is a massive factor, it is not the only factor. And if you equalise the salary spend, then those other factors will simply become the new reason for an uneven competition. And many of these factors simply can't be controlled. Then other measures come into play. For example, if your team is in an undesirable location -- simply move the team to a better location. And, thus, the franchise system of the American sporting leagues, which has also happened in Australia with teams with rich traditions being upended and moved thousands of kilometres away.

 

At the end of the day, you can't control everything but it seems like more and more that it is the perceived remit of the game's administrators to act like they can do so. It's pure arrogance built on the back of corporate greed and the opportunistic pursuit of a quick buck. I would prefer an officiating body that does less and professes to know as little as possible because this sort of shit is short-sighted nonsense initiated by self-congratulatory blowhards who have been in the game for ten minutes and act like they fuckin' know everything. Football was fine for the few hundred years it existed without any of this crap. Not to be the old man in the room complaining about the good ol' days and whatever but it really boils my piss that the mega-rich have to come in and spoil everything with their "campaigns" and marketing spin crap. Does absolutely everything that belongs to the people have to be taken away in the interest of the almighty dollar?

[Gemmill 46105]

Richard Masters says the hearing into Man City's 115 charges will happen in "the near future". Wonder if that means the close season, or whether he's just hoyed that out there to get out of the moment. 

[wykikitoon 20860]

[aimaad22 4222]

I'm enjoying all of these and I will absolutely pay to see their end of season documentary once it's out.

 

 

 

[Gemmill 46105]

Filthy Slot gets the Liverpool job. 

[Dougle 3407]

 

Seems like a nice chap.

 

Tremendous

[wykikitoon 20860]

£9.5m compo. Fuck me. 

[Gemmill 46105]

 

 

This is a dead interesting watch. I genuinely couldn't fault them, given the technology at their disposal, and it shows a mad situation where you genuinely do have multiple things to check and they arrive at the right decision. 

 

 

[toonotl 3116]

22 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

£9.5m compo. Fuck me. 

 

He's no Dan Ashworth.

[Gemmill 46105]

Probably not a bad thing for us that they've just got knocking on £10m compensation for Slot for a manager leaving for an entirely different division in another country. Sets a nice precedent a month before we go to arbitration on tiny Dan. 

Edited April 27 by Gemmill

[Rayvin 5317]

34 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

 

This is a dead interesting watch. I genuinely couldn't fault them, given the technology at their disposal, and it shows a mad situation where you genuinely do have multiple things to check and they arrive at the right decision. 

 

 

 

This is wild though. I'm actually a supporter of VAR in some ways, continue to believe it's just applied poorly rather than functionally useless, but the level of fucking on with this discussion is just mental. It's too much.

 

Aside from anything else right, if the offside hadn't been part of that situation would the red card penalty even have been picked up?

 

It just feels wrong to be going to this level of detail.

[Gemmill 46105]

Aye I think they would have still checked the penalty. If you go back to the start of the clip, they're already talking about the penalty before the ball ends up on the net. 

[Howmanheyman 33921]

10 hours ago, Gemmill said:

Filthy Slot gets the Liverpool job. 

 

And if he's XXL, well what the hell, every Arne don't fit the slot. 

 

 

 

 

[wykikitoon 20860]

Them offside lines  fuck me.  Its stone age technology man they're using. 

[wykikitoon 20860]

[Gemmill 46105]

Listened to the Athletic Football Podcast episode in Slot, and it sounds like we've got another Dutch genius landing on our shores, to match the fanfare they gave the last one (currently stinking the place up at Man United). 

 

Genius communicator, unmatched man manager. And I quote, "the only question mark is around his personality, how he carries himself" - in other words, another cunt. 

 

Basically the only way Liverpool could find someone arrogant enough to think they could replace Klopp was to either appoint a Dutchman or a South African, and South Africans don't really do football management. 

[Howmanheyman 33921]

8 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

Listened to the Athletic Football Podcast episode in Slot, and it sounds like we've got another Dutch genius landing on our shores, to match the fanfare they gave the last one (currently stinking the place up at Man United). 

 

Genius communicator, unmatched man manager. And I quote, "the only question mark is around his personality, how he carries himself" - in other words, another cunt. 

 

Basically the only way Liverpool could find someone arrogant enough to think they could replace Klopp was to either appoint a Dutchman or a South African, and South Africans don't really do football management. 

 

'I'm sure he'll be superb as the club he's joining is of course Liverpool football club and they're an amazing club and a top club like Manchester United are. The mind boggles to what he could achieve there.'

 

[Whispering in ear apparent]

 

'What? He's replacing Moyes at West Ham? You have to ask questions of whether this Slot character can adapt to the premier league, it's all very well beating the likes of Vitesse and Fortuna but what are you going to do against Man City?'

 

 

[Gemmill 46105]

 

NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL FOOTBALL! 

[PaddockLad 17704]

15 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL FOOTBALL!