Noelie 103 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Good game to watch, great win, but there were nail-biting times, especially after they equalized. Joselu? perhaps that should be Joselulu. He should have scored 2 goals. Couple of brilliant saves from Elliott. Perez is still too lightweight. Mbemba did alright out of position BUT............ I have to question why Benitez didn't play Gamez after his good performance last week. Good goal by Lascells BUT.....................he should have scored with his earlier chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21609 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 20 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Can't believe we've won 3 in a row like Rafa is honest to fuck the best thing that's happened to this club in a decade. For me, it's the way he has transformed our defence that stands out, you have to go back to Robson times last time we were this organised. And no offence to the players, but from Elliot onwards they're not great. But Rafa had them playing superbly as a unit. We don't have much possession, but when we do, we're efficient with it. But oddly, we're not really a counter-attacking side either in the normal sense. I don't know what we are but it's enjoyable to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 @The Fish will be in momentarily to post his thesis on what Rafa's tactics are and some big foreign word to explain it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 15 minutes ago, Noelie said: Good game to watch, great win, but there were nail-biting times, especially after they equalized. Joselu? perhaps that should be Joselulu. He should have scored 2 goals. Couple of brilliant saves from Elliott. Perez is still too lightweight. Mbemba did alright out of position BUT............ I have to question why Benitez didn't play Gamez after his good performance last week. Good goal by Lascells BUT.....................he should have scored with his earlier chance. Because Diouf was all over Darmian last weekend so Rafa counteracted their strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Youngest side in the division too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 It doesn't sit well with me saying the players aren't very good and Rafa has worked miracles. The number of piss takers we've had wear the shirt in recent years these players deserve huge credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Aye true. It's just that it all hangs on Rafa though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 I'm glad weve got points on the board as we have probably had the easiest opening 5 games of any team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Yawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: I'm glad weve got points on the board as we have probably had the easiest opening 5 games of any team Crystal Palace says hello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21609 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 19 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said: It doesn't sit well with me saying the players aren't very good and Rafa has worked miracles. The number of piss takers we've had wear the shirt in recent years these players deserve huge credit. Fair enough but I think our present cohort of players would struggle without the organization Rafa has given. I'm not insulting the players, but, Lascelles aside, I don't see them bring hunted by a top 6 side, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdansmith 3259 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 A great, totally deserved win. Keep playing like that and we'll hit 40 points and safety long before the season ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, Renton said: Fair enough but I think our present cohort of players would struggle without the organization Rafa has given. I'm not insulting the players, but, Lascelles aside, I don't see them bring hunted by a top 6 side, do you? It's a young side but plenty of potential for some of them to be sought after if they carry on as they are. They might not be doing step overs and rabonas but you can't just stick anyone out there and drill them to perform. They're a good, mentally strong group and I'd take that over a Ben Arfa all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Cracking header again by Lascelles, really hope he comes into his own this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17246 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 2 hours ago, adios said: @The Fish will be in momentarily to post his thesis on what Rafa's tactics are and some big foreign word to explain it all. "Tetraquiestra" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2978 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 You've stolen his thunder, so he'll have to come up with something else now. He'll be looking up exotic flavours of gelato for inspiration as we speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToony 41 Posted September 16, 2017 Author Share Posted September 16, 2017 I just rewatched the game and every time Merino had the ball I felt safe, a cozy warmth all over my body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 (edited) When did zonal marking become so popular? I know it's been creeping into the English game the past few years but we've seen in consecutive games why it's shit. Even an old school British coach like Hughes using it. Bizarre. I'm sure continental football enthusiasts will say I'm wrong and it works if employed correctly, but if you don't go man for man from a set piece you're just allowing the attackers a free run at you. I don't get it. Lascelles couldn't have scored two easier headers from corners. He should have had a second today from an earlier corner when we was again allowed to run in unmarked to attack the ball, but missed the target. Edited September 16, 2017 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 http://www.rafabenitez.com/web/in/blog/the-truth-about-marking-set-pieces/32/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Do we mark zonally like? Could have sworn our lot are always touch tight, grabbing their opponents' shirts - another thing you didn't see a lot of back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Can't say I've seen us using it. A big thing always seems to be made of it when a zonal marking team concedes though but never viva versa, I find it a bit odd. Can't say I have a preference, both ways have their advantages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 I don't see the advantage of marking space from a set piece. You're basically just allowing the attacker a free run on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: I don't see the advantage of marking space from a set piece. You're basically just allowing the attacker a free run on you. Aye that's the risk you take with it at set pieces. The argument for it is it's more disciplined and your defenders aren't getting dragged around the box by opposition movement. Don't know which way proves most effective though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graing 15 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Champions League here we come I sure hope Ritchie stays healthy. Starting to feel sorry for Palace....... but not really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Feed the Jos. We fed him but he needs to put the chances away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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