The Fish 10849 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Colback is a lucky fucker. No Krul or Lazaar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 So no Krul, Lazaar or Riviere but Saivet and Colback given numbers even though they've been frozen out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21912 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 i thought we'd seen the last of the ginger waster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Probably just in case we do get short in CM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21912 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 hanley too ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Means little at this stage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 i thought we were only allowed 25 there's 28 names on that list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30544 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, trooper said: i thought we were only allowed 25 there's 28 names on that list I assume that some of them still qualify as U-21? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13856 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 First instinct is that it isn't good enough, albeit with a better balance than the last squad that went down since I'd say the only place we're threadbare is left back. I think it'll struggle to score goals and you're basically relying on the manager to do a much harder job than he should have been asked to do in the first place. From the opening games, you'll see that we're going to be ridiculously well-organised and players are going to run themselves into the ground for Rafa but is that enough? Sometimes, it is, especially against poorer sides where you can just unsettle them by pressing high up but there's a real worry that better sides will pick us apart. Basically, you're wanting Joselu and Gayle to have brief purple patches, Atsu, Murphy and Aarons to develop across the season so we can hit teams on the break/be dangerous down the wings and you need Shelvey to stop being a fucking knacker for 5 minutes and have the effect on games that Merino did on Saturday. There's a lot of ifs and buts in there that didn't have to be there and that's yet another failure of Ashley and his insistence on "gambling" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Serious holes at LB and #10 but enough to stay up...if Rafa stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21912 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 The squad doesn't look much better than bottom 6 to me. The main issue for me is who is will score and create the goals? No proven top flight forwards in there and we're massively relying on shelvey for creativity, who I'm not convinced by at this level, even before you consider his dodgy temperament. We're in for another long slog of a season. But at least the balance sheet is in good shape, so every cloud... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Shelvey and Merino providing balls to pacey wingers and a trio of... competent strikers. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21912 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Reach for the stars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 All this chit-chat about no back-up at left back with Dummett out injured, playing Mbemba and Clark out of position, makes me wonder where Rafa's head is? Reason I say that is because...........Jesus Gamez. Gamez is a right-back, true, however when he signed for Athletico Madrid, in the 2014-2015 season Diego Simeone played him at left-back for most of his first season with them. He played a total of 21 games in that first season and apparently at left-back in most of them. That being so, why play central defenders out of position when you have someone with some experience in that position. Being a well experienced full-back, albeit on the right, makes more sense he could adjust to the left side a lot easier than central-defenders who had not played full-back before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20112 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Relegation material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10849 Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 9 hours ago, Happy Face said: Of the new signings you'd say it was only Lejeune that's nailed on to get a spot in the starting 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13856 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Noelie said: All this chit-chat about no back-up at left back with Dummett out injured, playing Mbemba and Clark out of position, makes me wonder where Rafa's head is? Reason I say that is because...........Jesus Gamez. Gamez is a right-back, true, however when he signed for Athletico Madrid, in the 2014-2015 season Diego Simeone played him at left-back for most of his first season with them. He played a total of 21 games in that first season and apparently at left-back in most of them. That being so, why play central defenders out of position when you have someone with some experience in that position. Being a well experienced full-back, albeit on the right, makes more sense he could adjust to the left side a lot easier than central-defenders who had not played full-back before. him being in the coaches photos with the title last year spoke volumes about his role at the club IMO. Seems to be there as someone to teach the kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21912 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, wykikitoon said: Relegation material. Agreed. Rafa built a squad to win promotion from the championship. He achieved the goal first time of asking. But it's plain to see that this squad needed significant number of players with top flight experience adding to it. 5-6 capable of improving the first team was my estimate. Instead we got zero. The only thing that wills keep us up is the manager's skills as a coach because on paper it looks pretty shit. If they were never in for a number 10, why sell de Jong? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21912 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) And why let Armstrong go on loan? How shit is our depth up front? We could have done with another body to make up the numbers if we weren't going to sign a new forward other than Murphy's replacement Joselu. It would have given a rare product of our youth system a chance to develop in the top flight too. Edited September 1, 2017 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdansmith 3259 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Can we recall any of the players we have let go on loan ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35059 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Another subtle wind-up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13856 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Tdansmith said: Can we recall any of the players we have let go on loan ? Djilibodji went out, didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdansmith 3259 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Ayatollah Hermione said: Djilibodji went out, didn't he? I don't understand what you mean mate. I was talking about the likes of Lazaar, armstrong and the two goalies can we get them back if we need them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Sterry Haidara Gamez Saivet Colback all wasting squad places for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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