Jacob Murphy

[Gemmill 52215]

Aye it's 100% a purple patch for Murphy. That said, he has more purple patches than most of the Ashley crop, loves the club, and seems a great character to have around. 

[spongebob toonpants 4477]

  On 22/12/2024 at 10:38, Gemmill said:

great character to have around. 

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Very important, team seems much more together at the moment

 

I remember Keegan saying he liked to build partnerships around the pitch, pairs of players who link well. At the moment him and Isak seem to be dovetailing nicely.

 

Yes it's against "lesser teams" but the very complaint everybody was making was that we only turn up against the big teams

 

For my money most important thing that needs fixing in the squad is cover for Isak. If he's out we've got nobody

[PaddockLad 19545]

  On 22/12/2024 at 09:49, Dr Gloom said:

Miggy and Murphy are both fine to make up the numbers but we’ve had those two competing for RW since Rafa was in charge. That needs to change. A couple of years ago I would have said keep Miggy but his time is up. Murphy hasn’t turned into a first team player overnight. We still need to urgently upgrade that position if we’re serious about competing for top 4 every year 

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An “upgrade” means what though? More consistent with the same skill level? For the money we’re likely to have available I’m suggesting that such a  first team ready player isn’t out there…

[Dr Gloom 24230]

  On 22/12/2024 at 11:02, PaddockLad said:

An “upgrade” means what though? More consistent with the same skill level? For the money we’re likely to have available I’m suggesting that such a  first team ready player isn’t out there…

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we’ve been heavily linked with this bakayoko kid for £25m. who knows if he can adapt to the PL but the fee sounds like the sort we might be prepared to spend if we can get rid of Miggy for about £10m

Edited December 22, 2024 by Dr Gloom

[PaddockLad 19545]

  On 22/12/2024 at 11:28, Dr Gloom said:

we’ve been heavily linked with this bakayoko kid for £25m. who knows if he can adapt to the PL but the fee sounds like the sort we might be prepared to spend if we can get rid of Miggy for about £10m

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Well that’s the point. Bakayoko is a risk, Jarrod Bowen is the type of player we need. That’s an upgrade. We’re not getting a player that’s likely to hit the ground running. I suppose am saying we need to relax our expectations for next month. Howe might concentrate on the centre back we need, and maybe a back up striker? .. 

[Toonpack 12069]

  On 22/12/2024 at 10:38, Gemmill said:

Aye it's 100% a purple patch for Murphy. That said, he has more purple patches than most of the Ashley crop, loves the club, and seems a great character to have around. 

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His "purple patch" last season made him the top chance creator in our whole team (those playing over 1200 mins)

 

Pacey RCB remains #1 priority. RW #2

 

 

[Dougle 3820]

  On 22/12/2024 at 10:59, spongebob toonpants said:

Very important, team seems much more together at the moment

 

I remember Keegan saying he liked to build partnerships around the pitch, pairs of players who link well. At the moment him and Isak seem to be dovetailing nicely.

 

Yes it's against "lesser teams" but the very complaint everybody was making was that we only turn up against the big teams

 

For my money most important thing that needs fixing in the squad is cover for Isak. If he's out we've got nobody

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This all day long

[Dr Gloom 24230]

  On 22/12/2024 at 11:51, PaddockLad said:

Well that’s the point. Bakayoko is a risk, Jarrod Bowen is the type of player we need. That’s an upgrade. We’re not getting a player that’s likely to hit the ground running. I suppose am saying we need to relax our expectations for next month. Howe might concentrate on the centre back we need, and maybe a back up striker? .. 

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I don’t think we can afford proven premier league players, which is why I found the chase of Guehi very strange given the fees mooted.
 

We have shown before when signing the likes of Bruno, Botman, Gordon - even Isak, which at £60m for a striker is decent value, that there was a value to be found betting on potential instead of the finished article, which is why I think bakayoko is more realistic than Bowen. He already has tons of caps and v impressive goal contributions data. But he hasn’t played in the PL so you get him for 30-40m less.   

 

That’s the end of the market we’re forced to operate in because of psr. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t look to upgrade RW or CB. We just need to go back to boxing clever - and taking a bit of a punt in the process. That’s what Mitchell was brought in to do: sign players who can go on to perform to the level of Bowen or Guehi before someone else gets in there first.  

[Billy Whitehurst 1064]

  On 22/12/2024 at 11:51, PaddockLad said:

Well that’s the point. Bakayoko is a risk, Jarrod Bowen is the type of player we need. That’s an upgrade. We’re not getting a player that’s likely to hit the ground running. I suppose am saying we need to relax our expectations for next month. Howe might concentrate on the centre back we need, and maybe a back up striker? .. 

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I doubt we could afford Bowen but he would be a brilliant signing.

 

He is pissing away his career at West Ham, should be playing at a much higher level. 

[Kid Dynamite 7915]

  On 22/12/2024 at 11:51, PaddockLad said:

Well that’s the point. Bakayoko is a risk, Jarrod Bowen is the type of player we need. That’s an upgrade. We’re not getting a player that’s likely to hit the ground running. I suppose am saying we need to relax our expectations for next month. Howe might concentrate on the centre back we need, and maybe a back up striker? .. 

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Bowen, Semenyo and Kulesevski would all suit our style. Sadly they would all cost £50m+ so we are likely looking abroad for players costing half that.

 

I really wish we'd found a way to do the Anderson/Elanga deal in the summer. He looks half decent, is young enough to still improve, plays with Isak for Sweden etc. 

Edited December 22, 2024 by Kid Dynamite

[Kid Dynamite 7915]

  On 22/12/2024 at 18:07, Billy Whitehurst said:

I doubt we could afford Bowen but he would be a brilliant signing.

 

He is pissing away his career at West Ham, should be playing at a much higher level. 

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Barnes has West Ham written all over him. Kudus prefers to play on the RW too.

 

Barnes and a chunk of cash could get it done? 

Edited December 22, 2024 by Kid Dynamite

[Zoidberg 168]

Not sure how much he would cost, but if we shift one or two out, I have always been a big fan of Edon Zhegrova from Lille. Fantastic winger and more than good enough to play in the Prem. Again, if we think a RW is that high of a priority versus other positions of need.

[ohhh_yeah 3073]

 

   

 

 

 

[Chaser 1431]

Murph still proving his value. Club website has him on 11 goals 12 assists for the season. 

[Alex 37680]

Honestly think he’s a good to very good PL player. The stats don’t lie. There’s a couple of aspects to his game which prevent him from being absolutely top notch but his goal involvement and work rate make him one of our most important players. Fucking delighted for him 

[Dr Gloom 24230]

  On 08/04/2025 at 09:29, Alex said:

Honestly think he’s a good to very good PL player. The stats don’t lie. There’s a couple of aspects to his game which prevent him from being absolutely top notch but his goal involvement and work rate make him one of our most important players. Fucking delighted for him 

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couldn't happen to a nicer bloke. similar story to miggy a few years back in that they've both enjoyed the season of their lives for us despite their limitations. again a hat tip to howe for coaching players who fans had previously written to play at their highest level for him. 

 

i'm sure RW will be upgraded in the summer but murphy probably has more to his overall game than miggy and i'm sure he will continue to be an important squad player. 

Edited April 8 by Dr Gloom

[Craig 7312]

As is often the case with players at his level, he benefits from those around him - playing alongside Isak, Tonali, Bruno & Joelinton undoubtedly draws out the best in him. 

I think he links up well with Tripps too.

[Craig 7312]

  On 08/04/2025 at 09:51, Dr Gloom said:

 

couldn't happen to a nicer bloke. similar story to miggy a few years back in that they've both enjoyed the season of their lives for us despite their limitations. again a hat tip to howe for coaching players who fans had previously written to play at their highest level for him. 

 

i'm sure RW will be upgraded in the summer but murphy probably has more to his overall game than miggy and i'm sure he will continue to be an important squad player. 

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This is almost getting as repetitive as "Everton are absolutely getting relegated this season!" 

[RobElliott 1969]

I think Jacobs form is a lot different to Miggys purple patch where he just scored worldies for 8 games. The improvement in Murphy feels more like the improvement in Big Joe following Eddies coaching.

 

I see RW as a slightly lower priority now for the summer, they might go in for a younger cheaper understudy to develop (as Minteh seemed to be).

 

Highest priority for the Summer has got to be cover for Isak and CB

[Dr Gloom 24230]

  On 08/04/2025 at 09:53, Craig said:

This is almost getting as repetitive as "Everton are absolutely getting relegated this season!" 

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it remains the one position that hasn't been upgraded since the takeover, i don't think it's up for debate. i would be amazed if we don't sign a RW this summer, particularly if we finish in the champions league places. 

[Dazzler 12598]

Murphy is playing at the same level he was at last season. Only difference is he's being used consistently. I wouldn't be surprised if the RW brought in is seen as a long term replacement rather than an immediate upgrade.

 

20+ goal contributions so far and we aren't finished the season yet.

 

I reckon someone like Dibling from Southampton will be the kind of player we look at rather than an immediate starter.

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[Dr Gloom 24230]

  On 08/04/2025 at 10:11, Dazzler said:

Murphy is playing at the same level he was at last season. Only difference is he's being used consistently. I wouldn't be surprised if the RW brought in is seen as a long term replacement rather than an immediate upgrade.

 

20+ goal contributions so far and we aren't finished the season yet.

 

I reckon someone like Dibling from Southampton will be the kind of player we look at rather than an immediate starter.

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Southampton apparently asking for £100m for him might lead us to look elsewhere

[Craig 7312]

  On 08/04/2025 at 10:09, Dr Gloom said:

 

it remains the one position that hasn't been upgraded since the takeover, i don't think it's up for debate. i would be amazed if we don't sign a RW this summer, particularly if we finish in the champions league places. 

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For me both CB and second striker are greater priorities. I think they will be for the club as well.

No doubt we'll still be hamstrung by PSR this summer and the concern is for a RW to come in, we might need to be considering offloading more from the squad. 

If it come down to someone like Miley being sold to finance a RW coming in, I'd favour sticking with Miley tbh.

[Dazzler 12598]

  On 08/04/2025 at 10:13, Dr Gloom said:

 

Southampton apparently asking for £100m for him might lead us to look elsewhere

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It doesn’t need to be him specifically like but that’s the profile I think we’ll look for rather than a ready made first teamer.

[Craig 7312]

  On 08/04/2025 at 10:13, Dr Gloom said:

 

Southampton apparently asking for £100m for him might lead us to look elsewhere

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Absolutely nuts! 

If we do go down the route of signing a RW this summer I think Mbeumo is a realistic target. I heard rumours from someone with connections to Brentford that we've sounded the idea out, but rumours is all it is. 

Lots of people on social media talking about Elanga. Complete non-starter - he's loving life in a squad he feels an integral part of having been pretty much ostracised at Man United and he's almost certain to be playing CL football next season without moving clubs. He's going nowhere!