Rayvin 5223 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Has it been noted that the Sun had a journalist pass himself off as a victim's friend in order to get into the hospital to interview him? Normal classy behaviour from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Just now, Rayvin said: They do it through TV and computer screens That stupid dickhead Obama started it and it's a complete bastardization of the word. Optics or Optique refers primarily to field glasses or rifle sights. If you wan to say public perception then say it...And everyone can understand what it means. Optics is irregular usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Just now, Park Life said: That stupid dickhead Obama started it and it's a complete bastardization of the word. Optics or Optique refers primarily to field glasses or rifle sights. If you wan to say public perception then say it...And everyone can understand what it means. Optics is irregular usage. Yeah but it's quicker, innit Is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Yeah but it's quicker, innit Is it not? No. Cause it doesn't mean anything. It's another American language plague. If an actor says ruf instead of roof I turn the telly off. Edited June 16, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35095 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Not if you have to explain it anyone who isn't a nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Alex said: Not if you have to explain it anyone who isn't a nerd You don't think it's fairly self evident? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35095 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Just now, Rayvin said: You don't think it's fairly self evident? Not really. I've only ever really heard it used in regard to spirit measures or camera lenses. I'm sure that Argos bloke on youtube uses it a lot though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Just now, Alex said: Not really. I've only ever really heard it used in regard to spirit measures or camera lenses. I'm sure that Argos bloke on youtube uses it a lot though Argos bloke. You mean Sargon? I don't know if he has but tbh, I stopped watching him once he threw in with the Tories at the GE, so who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 'Argos bloke'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35095 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Just now, Rayvin said: Argos bloke. You mean Sargon? Fairly self-evident I'd have thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Alex said: Fairly self-evident I'd have thought Boom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 It was, see how I picked up on it? I'd say that's an endorsement of my position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Someone is liable here. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/16/manufacturer-of-cladding-on-grenfell-tower-identified-as-omnis-exteriors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 42 minutes ago, Park Life said: It's not a word. It's a meaningless Americanisation. Stop using it or die. How very French. Without word development we'd be cumpkinless. And we can all agree that would be a tragedy. Perfectly cromulent words embiggen the language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4728 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 9 minutes ago, Anorthernsoul said: Someone is liable here. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/16/manufacturer-of-cladding-on-grenfell-tower-identified-as-omnis-exteriors It's looking like nobody has done anything illegal and that the fault lies squarely with government not toughening regulations. I have no idea how anyone is sleeping in a similar block. Country definitley needs a major overhaul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20203 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Someone is going to prison for defdo. I put the money on the contractor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4269 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Think there is a big point being missed here. The cladding was flammable and went up quickly, which spread the fire. But these are pre-cast buildings and with appropriate fire stopping in the rest of the building the cladding may have burnt itself out with minimal internal fire spread. If the refurb of the building included interior works then the fire stopping should have been renewed post works and could have saved a lot of lives. It is a legal requirement to install correct fire stopping. This is where I think there may be significant differences between this block and others using similar cladding systems, and where someone will go to prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20203 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 minute ago, strawb said: Think there is a big point being missed here. The cladding was flammable and went up quickly, which spread the fire. But these are pre-cast buildings and with appropriate fire stopping in the rest of the building the cladding may have burnt itself out with minimal internal fire spread. If the refurb of the building included interior works then the fire stopping should have been renewed post works and could have saved a lot of lives. It is a legal requirement to install correct fire stopping. This is where I think there may be significant differences between this block and others using similar cladding systems, and where someone will go to prison. I think I said further up about National Grid saying there was a gas issue with the building. The cladding should have been provided with fire stops at each floor and around penetrations. Looking at the way it went up and only taking 15mins to go from the 4th storey to the roof it doesnt look like these were installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 An interesting read, I remember reading about Ladbroke Grove in Joe Strummer's book. https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/should-rich-houses-be-taken-to-house-grenfell-victims?utm_source=vicefbuk&utm_campaign=global Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4771 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Park Life said: That stupid dickhead Obama started it and it's a complete bastardization of the word. Optics or Optique refers primarily to field glasses or rifle sights. If you wan to say public perception then say it...And everyone can understand what it means. Optics is irregular usage. Optics is a field of physics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21950 Posted June 16, 2017 Author Share Posted June 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Anorthernsoul said: Someone is liable here. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/16/manufacturer-of-cladding-on-grenfell-tower-identified-as-omnis-exteriors Lammy got it spot on when he called it corporate man slaughter. Someone is to be held to account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42460 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 20 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Lammy got it spot on when he called it corporate man slaughter. Someone is to be held to account. This stuff will be on hundreds of renovated blocks. I've worked on several in Newcastle, Leeds and Glasgow which have the same stuff. Thats just renovated council blocks. I'd be willing to bet that loads of the new student accommodation blocks which have sprung up everywhere will be covered in it. There's going to be some massive retro-fitting programmes coming soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7034 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Theresa May has had to be hurried out of a church before she was lynched Boris is getting pelters from firemen for claiming fire deaths have gone down when all they have done is change the criteria to exclude the many fatalities from smoke inhalation Even Sky and the Daily Mail are giving them grief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 http://news.sky.com/story/grenfell-fire-protesters-enter-kensington-and-chelsea-town-hall-10917777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7034 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Who is getting brayed? whilst I'm all for some proactive taking to the streets, we could do without 100 dead men, women and children becoming an excuse for dickheads to start rioting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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