Park Life 71 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) When the negotiations start there will be plenty to fill its own thread without destroying the other political type threads and harking back to debates in the in/out thread and the GE thread. So far both sides have started with bluster and strong stances and seems like rigid positions. This is all bollocks and will there will be plenty of compromise to come....Unless the EU want to destroy us.... Remember the EU is fighting on four fronts: Ukraine, Greece, Hungary AND UK. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-hungary-idUSKBN17S1DZ The document voted through by the European parliament confirms: Britain will leave the EU on 30 March 2019 00.00 Brussels time, unless the EU27 agrees unanimously to extend talks. The status of EU citizens (3.5 million EU citizens in the UK and 1.2 million Britons on the continent) is the EU’s top priority. The Brexit agreement must ensure “effective, enforceable, non-discriminatory and comprehensive guarantees” for those people and their families. There is no mention of the €100bn Brexit bill (or any other number). Instead, the EU states that Britain will have to agree on a “single financial settlement” covering the EU budget and British contributions to the European Investment Bank and other common funds. The EU’s hope of avoiding a hard border on the island of Ireland, while “respecting the EU’s legal order”, meaning customs checks will have to be in place, if the UK leaves the customs union. The EU wants to ensure that any future British government can be held to account if it fails to uphold the Brexit agreement: it proposes “an institutional structure to ensure an effective enforcement of the commitments” and refers to the importance of the European court of justice. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/22/ready-for-brexit-talks-says-eu-chief-negotiator-michel-barnier Edited May 22, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2017/feb/20/gb-v-eu-how-the-brexit-negotiating-teams-line-up The European Commission’s chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier has assembled a team of roughly 30 staffers to coordinate the EU’s position. This task force is likely to double in size at the very least in the first few months of formal negotiations. The EU’s battle plan, agreed at the last European summit, largely left the politics to presidents and prime ministers and focused on technicalities. But Barnier’s appointments suggest he wants his staffers to have strong political instincts as well. As you might expect, the French veteran has filled his ranks with several former aides and officials from his previous jobs. With at least five French staffers in the negotiating team — the deputy diplomatic adviser is a top young French civil servant, Tristan Aureau — it’s fair to assume French will be frequently heard in the corridors of the fifth floor of the Berlaymont, where the team is headquartered, to the dismay, no doubt, of British tabloids. François Arbault, a cabinet member when Barnier was European commissioner for the internal market and financial services, was one of the first to join the team, as was Stefaan de Rynck, a financial services expert who will handle the task force’s relations with national parliaments and think-tanks.'' http://www.politico.eu/article/michel-barnier-brexit-dream-team-negotiation-europe-commission/ Edited May 22, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15518 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 They're hiring skilled negotiators? What the actual FUCK? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 Was at the Varoufakis talk today in Hamburg and managed to get hold of him after for a quick chat. He was of the opinion the EU are going to make it quite tough as they did with Greece during the crisis. The primary reason is that it serves as a warning to the other who are perhaps on the edge like Italy and Spain with growing populist movements. That even if they work against their best interests there is a good chance that they want to send out a political message to the rest of Europe. Just as Greece was used to scare the other debtor countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15518 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I could have told you that and saved you the effort. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Meenzer said: I could have told you that and saved you the effort. He's quite sexy up close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 39 minutes ago, Park Life said: Was at the Varoufakis talk today in Hamburg and managed to get hold of him after for a quick chat. He was of the opinion the EU are going to make it quite tough as they did with Greece during the crisis. The primary reason is that it serves as a warning to the other who are perhaps on the edge like Italy and Spain with growing populist movements. That even if they work against their best interests there is a good chance that they want to send out a political message to the rest of Europe. Just as Greece was used to scare the other debtor countries. Bollocks. May is going to agree a cracking deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15518 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 34 minutes ago, Park Life said: He's quite sexy up close. I could have told you (etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) Wanted to get me Hardback signed innit. Edited May 22, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30597 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 On 07/06/2016 at 0:10 PM, ewerk said: I don't think that the EU will be in any mood to do us any favours. They'll want to show the other EU members that you can't just walk away and expect to retain the benefits of membership. 56 minutes ago, Park Life said: Was at the Varoufakis talk today in Hamburg and managed to get hold of him after for a quick chat. He was of the opinion the EU are going to make it quite tough as they did with Greece during the crisis. The primary reason is that it serves as a warning to the other who are perhaps on the edge like Italy and Spain with growing populist movements. That even if they work against their best interests there is a good chance that they want to send out a political message to the rest of Europe. Just as Greece was used to scare the other debtor countries. How much did you pay for your boyfriend to repeat exactly what I said a year ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ewerk said: How much did you pay for your boyfriend to repeat exactly what I said a year ago? It was free. And I think you're both wrong. There will be plenty of wiggle room. His thinking is still scarred from this recent tribulations. Edited May 22, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30597 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Aye, because you know better than one of the greatest political minds of our generation. And Varoufakis is no dope either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 1 minute ago, ewerk said: Aye, because you know better than one of the greatest political minds of our generation. And Varoufakis is no dope either. Whatever the Federalists want the Globalists will have different ideas with regard to disruption in capital and commerce. This is going to be one of the most interesting historical moments since Black Adder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 12, 2017 Author Share Posted June 12, 2017 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/eu-brexit-talks-delay-theresa-may-election-2017-result-stance-negotiate-uk-prime-minister-a7785346.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30597 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/senior-tories-secret-talks-labour-10613652 At least someone thinks my ideas aren't idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 On 13/06/2017 at 0:44 PM, ewerk said: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/senior-tories-secret-talks-labour-10613652 At least someone thinks my ideas aren't idiotic. I've been saying for months that Brexit in any real sense won't happen. Soft words now coming from Macron, Schauble and others...The hijack gonna get hijacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Does anyone else who sees someone reading Private Eye on the Metro immediately assume they're a wanker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30597 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I bought a year's subscription to it. I've only actually ready it twice in six months. I'm definitely a wanker though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17246 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I've never bought it but I've got a lot of time for Ian Hislop. He said the other day that there should be an enquiry into Michael Gove's relationship with Rupert Murdoch, not for the first time showing that he's one of the few media wankers who isn't bought and paid for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/eu-poland-hungary-czech-republic-refugee-crisis-handle-legal-proceeding-lawsuit-european-commission-a7789161.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40339044 Absolute fucking madness tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21605 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 19 minutes ago, Alex said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40339044 Absolute fucking madness tbh It's interesting the HYS comments aren't so rabidly pro-Brexit now. Is the tide changing? A lot can happen in the next 18 months. Plus Parky has been right about everything. Brexit might not happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 Divorce bill first. ''Britain and the EU agreed to focus the first stages of negotiations over Brexit on divorce proceedings from the bloc in a meeting that both sides hailed as constructive after an early concession from London on the sequence of talks. The two sides agreed to prioritise negotiations on Britain’s exit bill and a settlement on rights for EU citizens living in the UK and Britons on the continent, in line with Brussels’ longstanding demands for the structure of the discussions. Michel Barnier, the EU’s chief negotiator, and David Davis, the UK Brexit minister, stressed after their talks in Brussels that an exit deal was achievable, but both conceded the talks were up against the clock, with Britain set to leave the EU in March 2019.'' https://www.ft.com/content/34b704a0-54d7-11e7-9fed-c19e2700005f?mhq5j=e1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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