adios 717 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Think I'm going to go watch a horror movie now to cheer me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Can't get my head around how low we've stooped. Kind of numb to it though whereas I'm angry about Mbappe to PSG. To be honest when Rafa goes it'll be a relief - I'll still support the club but with no fervour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToony 41 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 As the great Richard Simmons once said: "SUCK MY DICK!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7245 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Guys it's ok, there's 6 deals subject to approval still to be announced in the league. Only question is do we have 6 players that are saleable or are some of that 6 incoming deals for other clubs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5175 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I kinda get that there's a process we're all going through here but is it honestly conceivable that Rafa didnt know how much we had to spend at least in the past month? I doubt today has surprised him. But who knows. Either way, he's here for now and if he sees out the season, will probably ensure we dont get relegated. After that, we probably will have money to spend. #optimism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21809 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 You know where you can shove your optimism don't you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5175 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said: You know where you can shove your optimism don't you? I do I just think the rest of the division is so shit we'll still be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 867 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I kinda get that there's a process we're all going through here but is it honestly conceivable that Rafa didnt know how much we had to spend at least in the past month? I doubt today has surprised him. But who knows. Either way, he's here for now and if he sees out the season, will probably ensure we dont get relegated. After that, we probably will have money to spend. #optimism Which we will not, because we will still be owned by Mike Ashley. 16 outbound players. Not counting those who had no first-team future (Vuckic, Satka, Mbabu) and those who are coming back (Armstrong, Toney) that's 11 outbounds and 6 incomings. No side in the world has ever been promoted and gone "You know what would be great? To sell twice as many players as we bring in for our consolidation season." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haydnator 45 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I kinda get that there's a process we're all going through here but is it honestly conceivable that Rafa didnt know how much we had to spend at least in the past month? I doubt today has surprised him. But who knows. Either way, he's here for now and if he sees out the season, will probably ensure we dont get relegated. After that, we probably will have money to spend. #optimism You must be the most optimistic of optimists if you think that. I naively thought it would've been different this time, but they never change. 10 years and they've learned nothing, fucked up in 2009, almost fucked up in 2013 and 2015, fucked up in 2016 and now they're squandering one of the biggest opportunities we've probably had in my time, albeit a short one, of supporting this club. They've lucked out by having Benitez fall into their laps and still managed to completely fuck it up. There is no reason whatsoever not to back him, wank little Huddersfield Town have backed their boss with 4 times as much cash (net), Brighton not far behind them but we've deliberately and purposely decided that £11m is all Benitez is worth. I utterly despise the cunts running this club. Absolutely no point in struggling to get promoted only to make funds available to buy half of Demarai Gray. What was the point? Why were we all watching Brighton's games? Why did we bother worrying about Huddersfield's form or penchant for nicking late goals? Why did we worry? Absolutely no point or reason to continue to support this mess or the utter wankers that run it. It's just futile, if ever there was a time to back someone and see us progress it was this window, right now, and we've actively refused to compete. I'll still be there at the Stoke game if Rafa's here, like. Edited August 31, 2017 by Haydnator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, Rayvin said: I do I just think the rest of the division is so shit we'll still be fine. Rafa won't see the season out now and once he goes we're fucked. Just waiting for a club to buy his contract out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 867 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Here's a fun exercise. Vurnon Anita released Sammy Ameobi released Yoan Gouffran released Haris Vuckic released Lubo Satka released Florian Thauvin sold Kevin Mbabu sold Matz Sels loaned Adam Armstrong loaned Daryl Murphy sold Ivan Toney loaned Emmanuel Riviere released Siem De Jong sold Grant Hanley sold Tim Krul loaned Achraf Lazaar loaned Take that heap of shit and make a first XI out of it, then predict where it would finish in the Championship. Bonus points to anyone who fires up FM and actually makes that team and plays as it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Doesn't seem very fun tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 867 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Krul Mbabu Hanley Satka Lazaar Gouffran Anita Vuckic Thauvin de Jong Murphy Subs: Sels, Ameobi, Armstrong, Toney Kit man: Riviere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I've had enough now, I'm deleting my stream links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 It would be easy to say I'm not surprised that we didn't make any last gasp signings, but I am surprised, and greatly disappointed. I was fully expecting someone based on things Benitez said in his Press meetings. I fully expected a fruitful last ditch effort which obviously didn't happen, not even with this Kenedy who has been touted for so long. Of course you can blame Ashley and Charnley as much as you want, but some fault has to lie with Benitez. Jesus man, he might have been looking for a goalkeeper but Chris Hughton didn't have to look too far to get Krul on loan. I'm not at all enthused with the players that have been brought in as none of them are marquee players, or players with vast experience in top teams or leagues. LeJuene looks like he could be a winner, maybe Merino too, but I don't know about Atsu, Manquillo, Murphy, and Joselu. I hope they all put me to shame and turn out to be gems in the Premier League, and show that Benitez might have known just what he was doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, Noelie said: Benitez might have known just what he was doing. Seems unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19877 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 So what shirt number does Messi get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Rafa could have been given £100m to spend but the final say on incoming players wasn't Rafa's and never will be. 'Sorry Rafa,we offered £100m for Catts but the Sad Makem Bastards wanted a tenner more so we pulled out of the deal'. Would things have been different if we hadn't beaten Wist Em? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10701 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I'm in the same boat as most others; I didn't expect 7 £20m+ signings, but I did think that someone would join us. Barnes and Charnley couldn't negotiate a deal for Southampton's 3rd choice left back ffs. I have zero experience negotiating contracts, but I think I could have made a better fist of it than these two bellends. He apparently wanted a 6 month loan deal and we wanted 12, well how about a 6 month deal with an option to extend? He says yes to that, immediately start groundwork for a left back in January. If Targett is playing every game and looks mint but doesn't want to join, well we've got 2-3 other options lined up for January. Ditto for Kenedy. Ditto for a striker. It's not fucking rocket science. These arseholes seem to think they're not operating within a time sensitive market. Like when we tired to get great deals on Sissoko et al by not signing them when we needed them, but holding off until their prices went down £1m or so. Pricks. That said, i still think this squad is good enough under Benitez to survive. We'll get about 40pts I reckon, and there'll be clubs that people say have done better business this window who finish below us. If we're very much in a relegation scrap come December I think Ashley will loosen the purse strings a bit, simply to protect his investment. Not enough to mean that the following year we'll be comfortably safe, but just enough to keep us up. However, if we're in a dogfight, and if Ashley doesn't back us, that's when I see Benitez walking. And nobody could blame him. And whoever takes over, will very likely take us down. dalewded jawdees and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13792 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Caulkin is suggesting that Southampton were being difficult over Targett but the whole 6 months vs season long deal confused me. Not sure why we couldn't just accept a 6 month deal and then spend time trying to get a permanent signing sorted for January and use Targett as a stop-gap? That would suggest some common sense and long-term thinking on the part of the lads doing the deals though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 It was about the money not the length of deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5175 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 If we accept that the club simply didn't have money this summer (which, if I recall, is what HF was saying early summer) - then none of this should be a surprise. Charnley even made a statement to that effect back in May. Realistically, we've bet everything on Rafa being able to keep us up. If we go down, we won't be as financially vulnerable (I suppose) and if we stay up, we should be in a position to kick on next year. The market may even have calmed somewhat. Huddersfield and Brighton - firstly, I'm guessing their financial situation was different to ours. They hadn't just had to tighten their belts from being relegated, and I assume have built things up sustainably. But secondly, they've bet everything on not going down. If they do go down, I imagine that they'll be in trouble. The real problem we'll have is that if the club makes £50m profit this year from TV deals or whatever, Ashley might pocket a substantial amount of it to pay off the loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13792 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 17 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said: It was about the money not the length of deal. Can't find the tweet now but I saw a few journos confirming it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21809 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 9 hours ago, Rayvin said: I do I just think the rest of the division is so shit we'll still be fine. Lets hope that out of the shit squads in the division, ours is at least the 4th shittest then. What a season to look forward to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34821 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Looking forward to next season's derby matches already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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