Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 We need strikers anyway man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Face it Ashley the games up the penny is finally dropping for a lot of people # back rafa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4266 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 He doesn’t read the forum man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 30 minutes ago, strawb said: He doesn’t read the forum man He might Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 3 hours ago, trooper said: Rafa on transfers: “We have some enquiries about some of our players and Lee Charnley is working on that. We will see if we have any news in the next few days. Obviously, we need to move players if we want to have money to spend on players.” Looks like we have to sell to buy Of course we have to sell to buy. Surely that’s no surprise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 26 minutes ago, Kitman said: Of course we have to sell to buy. Surely that’s no surprise? Most club's (I know) usually have a transfer kitty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17281 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 That 2018 end of season statement from Mike Ashley in full: “Rafa, as always, has my full support, and, contrary to some media reports that portray me as a pantomime villain, I will continue to ensure that every penny generated by the club is available to him.” That 2017 end of season statement from Mike Ashley in full: "I've confirmed to Rafa and Lee that they can have every last penny that the club generates through promotion, player sales and other means in order to build for next season." Nowts changed. Some people today seem to be a tiny bit surprised by this, which I find a touch surprising myself..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToony 41 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Rondon for roughly 19 million. You would think that with the money we haven't spent that they can add 5 -6 million more to get someone with a little more scoring prowess. So while we sweat out what could most likely be another relegation season, I'll be walking by the lakeshore playing my kazoo while some silicone sister with a manager mister told me I got what it takes. She said, "I'll turn you on sonny to something strong, play the song with the funky break." And go-cart Mozart was checkin' out the weather chart to see if it was safe outside, and little Early-Burly cam in by in his curly-wurly and asked me if I needed a ride. Asked me if I needed a ride! You know what I'm saying, Noelie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, LooneyToony said: Rondon for roughly 19 million. You would think that with the money we haven't spent that they can add 5 -6 million more to get someone with a little more scoring prowess. So while we sweat out what could most likely be another relegation season, I'll be walking by the lakeshore playing my kazoo while some silicone sister with a manager mister told me I got what it takes. She said, "I'll turn you on sonny to something strong, play the song with the funky break." And go-cart Mozart was checkin' out the weather chart to see if it was safe outside, and little Early-Burly cam in by in his curly-wurly and asked me if I needed a ride. Asked me if I needed a ride! You know what I'm saying, Noelie? Your Blinded by the Light mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToony 41 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, trooper said: Your Blinded by the Light mate Aye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7030 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Rafa leaving would be the tip of the iceberg. Lascelles would be straight out the door, Kenedy wouldn't return and we would be straight back to the Championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7295 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 The only question that remains for this window is whether our new Joselu will be better, the same or worse than our existing one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said: Rafa leaving would be the tip of the iceberg. Lascelles would be straight out the door, Kenedy wouldn't return and we would be straight back to the Championship Seems likely atm he’ll leave at the end of his contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 While I’m not surprised I just don’t see the point in what he is doing. If he was to keep Rafa and just allow him to spend a decent amount with transparency about how much there is to spend, there would be no risk of relegation, no risk of Rafa leaving, and honestly we’d become a more marketable club etc. Instead he willfully risks relegation year on year and is doing his best to chase off the best thing that’s happened to the club during his disgrace of a tenure. If Rafa leaves I can see a lot of people packing it in, I think many were about there just before he took over, and to have had a manager of this calibre come in and be so willing to stay only to see him pushed out because Ashley would not spend a fucking penny it would just be a bit much for most iyam. Genuinely don’t understand why Rafa is hanging about. Ashley clearly has no intention of ever letting him spend owt. Tin pot no mark sides like Huddersfield, Brighton, and Bournemouth outspend us every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11281 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 26 minutes ago, Howay said: Genuinely don’t understand why Rafa is hanging about. Because he does not walk away from a contract. He won't sign another one, though, unless things change. Why would he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33245 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Howay said: While I’m not surprised I just don’t see the point in what he is doing. If he was to keep Rafa and just allow him to spend a decent amount with transparency about how much there is to spend, there would be no risk of relegation, no risk of Rafa leaving, and honestly we’d become a more marketable club etc. Instead he willfully risks relegation year on year and is doing his best to chase off the best thing that’s happened to the club during his disgrace of a tenure. If Rafa leaves I can see a lot of people packing it in, I think many were about there just before he took over, and to have had a manager of this calibre come in and be so willing to stay only to see him pushed out because Ashley would not spend a fucking penny it would just be a bit much for most iyam. Genuinely don’t understand why Rafa is hanging about. Ashley clearly has no intention of ever letting him spend owt. Tin pot no mark sides like Huddersfield, Brighton, and Bournemouth outspend us every year. I haven't renewed, like. I only went back again when Rafa came in as I thought he'd be our only chance of making a difference to Ashley maybe changing his ways a bit through getting something in writing but obviously not. Bad craic when you'd be happy to hear someone's died but that's about where we are with this cunt tbh as he's got no intention of letting go of us unless he gets an offer way in excess of the club's worth. Edited July 18, 2018 by Howmanheyman 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35095 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 10 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said: Rafa leaving would be the tip of the iceberg. Lascelles would be straight out the door, Kenedy wouldn't return and we would be straight back to the Championship Absolutely. All the good team spirit wiped out in one fell swoop by the Football Genius (c) As Kitman alludes to, it's looking like Rafa staying until his current contract runs out is about as good as it'll get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 This before yesterday's game https://www.themag.co.uk/2018/07/a-despairing-rafa-benitez-cant-make-it-clearer-i-have-tried-to-do-my-best-but-we-will-see-later-newcastle-united/ "Mike Ashley said (on the last day of the season) every last penny was available. I don't do the numbers so I don't know exactly what that means. We are fine in terms of profit so maybe's you have to speak to Lee Charnley he has the numbers. I am doing my best in these conditions that's all I can say" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerosum 234 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 How many last warnings can Mike have? ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3357 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Wasn't there are rumour that there was a penalty clause in Rafa's contract if he quits. Besides the fans it's the only plausible reason he hasn't left considering the lack of respect Ashley repeatedly shows him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 I've heard the clause is expired now but fuck knows if that's true or if it was ever more than a rumour anyway. At the end of the day, regardless of what he get's allowed to spend, he's on a fantastic wage and he enjoys an unbelievably good rapport with the support. That's enough to keep him here until the end of his contract but I can't see any way it could be enough to make him sign a new one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 His fantastic wage won't in any way be keeping him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9780 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 I can’t see Rafa staying here, so probably the best thing he could do is resigning and to show up what a fraud Ashley is. Rafa would probably win compensation because of constructive dismissal as well. I would love that tbh. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerosum 234 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) Wouldn’t blame him at all ^ The fans know he’s being led up the garden path. Just a shame it ended up in the usual place. Edited July 18, 2018 by zerosum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerosum 234 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 But rafa being the bloke he is, will probably stay this season and say.. did my best everyone but can’t do it anymore. He can walk away with his head held high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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