Andrew 4712 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: Look, don't tell the rest of these knackers, but I've got some shit hot, amazing magic beans. I was going to sell them to CT but I'll do a deal with you seeing I like you. £50 and the tin's yours! How much for just the tin? Don't like beans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32596 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, Andrew said: How much for just the tin? Don't like beans. 25p or a part in your new play. I'm easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/uncomfortable-truth-newcastle-uniteds-transfer-14780261 It is believed that Benitez was keen to have four or five new faces through the door in time for the first day of pre-season training on July 2 but that now looks increasingly unlikely to happen. Benitez’s back-room and scouting team produced a lengthy shortlist of targets to bring in this summer but there has been no progress in the transfer market so far for the Magpies . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
247 597 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 So what did we spend last summer? £30m on transfer fees? Cant remember who we sold exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9677 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 6 hours ago, Andrew said: If we're signing rondon we may as well not sign anyone imo, three years of being his clubs first choice striker in the PL and hes never made double figures, hes unlikely to make us any better. Chronicle had a puff piece the other day about players at the WC we will be scouting which had a list of some interesting options from the bundesliga that I'd be more interested in seeing, even if they were just to come in and be fairly average they'd be a better option than Rondon. Article seems not to be online. What Players from the Bundesliga were mentioned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30160 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 26 minutes ago, 247 said: So what did we spend last summer? £30m on transfer fees? Cant remember who we sold exactly Murphy, De Jong, Thauvin, Hanley and Vuckic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4712 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 24 minutes ago, Isegrim said: Article seems not to be online. What Players from the Bundesliga were mentioned? https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/jorgensen-golovin-muto-8-players-14776153 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13760 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Rayvin said: As with all things, I only try and make judgements based on the evidence I have. There's a decade of evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5151 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Ayatollah Hermione said: There's a decade of evidence A decade of evidence concerning how Ashley runs the club, sure. Is there a decade of evidence of him taking money out? I can recall one occasion, i think. All I'm saying is that if the money isn't "leaving the club" it must be going somewhere. Why would it not be released to Benitez? If it is leaving the club then fine, Ashley is lying to buy himself time and it is paying off the debt. But even so, i dont understand why he wouldn't just say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Rayvin said: A decade of evidence concerning how Ashley runs the club, sure. Is there a decade of evidence of him taking money out? I can recall one occasion, i think. All I'm saying is that if the money isn't "leaving the club" it must be going somewhere. Why would it not be released to Benitez? If it is leaving the club then fine, Ashley is lying to buy himself time and it is paying off the debt. But even so, i dont understand why he wouldn't just say that. I don’t think Ashley is “lying to buy himself time” as he’s shown time and again he doesn’t care how things look to the outside world. I don’t know how much cash we have, but his approach seems to be that we only spend what is in the tin to cover outgoings. We seem to be the only club that takes that approach. Which puts us out of touch with the likes of Brighton and Huddersfield. It wont take us forward and will in all likelihood lose us benitez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) I think at this point we don’t need to come up with a why as to why Ashley is doing something. The fat cunt has proven time and again he’ll just do whatever the fuck he fancies often for reasons only he knows. I’m still pretty comfortable in thinking the accounts have been displayed in a way that suits his argument that the club has nowt to spend. It’s utter fucking shite, there’s absolutely no way our wage bill increased by £40M in the time frame covered by the accounts. Fucking tin pot clubs like Brighton, Bournemouth, Huddersfield, etc all outspend us I know Bournemouth have been in the PL for a while but even when we had been in it a for a few consecutive years under this fat joke it’s not like we were spending like they have at times, iirc Bournemouth have two players which cost more than our transfer record. I agree with what Alex is saying, when we were promoted it was hinted at that the first season would be tight and we had to absorb the season in the Championship then be stronger the following summer. We are now in that summer and he’s using the same fucking excuse as to why we can’t spend much, it’s fucking nonsense. It’s a real shame as Benitez is brilliant, it’s just we got him when owned by this twat. Until Ashley leaves we’ll accomplish absolutely nothing, he’s literally looking at the miracle job Rafa did last season and thinking ‘he can do that again’ in the hope the clubs coffers swell a bit more. Edited June 14, 2018 by Howay 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5151 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 23 minutes ago, Howay said: It’s a real shame as Benitez is brilliant, it’s just we got him when owned by this twat. Until Ashley leaves we’ll accomplish absolutely nothing, he’s literally looking at the miracle job Rafa did last season and thinking ‘he can do that again’ in the hope the clubs coffers swell a bit more. If this is true then he's still primarily focused on reducing the debt. I don't see why he wouldn't just say that but there we go. I assume this takeover is properly dead anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Howays post is spot on for me. There’s pretty much been zero ambition since Keegan left, we’re run like a corner shop. Sadly Ashley doesn’t appreciate (or care) that a manager of Benitez’s calibre comes along once in a blue moon. If Benitez walks away through lack of support, we’ll be back to the likes of Kinnear and Pardew and we can look forward to lots more derbies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) I always thought Pardew was the perfect manager for Ashley. Always fanking Mike, never questioning the budget, taking the flak from the fans a perfect yes man. The grim reality is if/when Rafa goes we can probably expect the return of Pardew or someone of that calibre Edited June 14, 2018 by trooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21756 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 It’s almost like if that did happen, you’d take some kind of perverse pleasure from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32596 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 7 hours ago, Howay said: I think at this point we don’t need to come up with a why as to why Ashley is doing something. The fat cunt has proven time and again he’ll just do whatever the fuck he fancies often for reasons only he knows. I’m still pretty comfortable in thinking the accounts have been displayed in a way that suits his argument that the club has nowt to spend. It’s utter fucking shite, there’s absolutely no way our wage bill increased by £40M in the time frame covered by the accounts. Fucking tin pot clubs like Brighton, Bournemouth, Huddersfield, etc all outspend us I know Bournemouth have been in the PL for a while but even when we had been in it a for a few consecutive years under this fat joke it’s not like we were spending like they have at times, iirc Bournemouth have two players which cost more than our transfer record. I agree with what Alex is saying, when we were promoted it was hinted at that the first season would be tight and we had to absorb the season in the Championship then be stronger the following summer. We are now in that summer and he’s using the same fucking excuse as to why we can’t spend much, it’s fucking nonsense. It’s a real shame as Benitez is brilliant, it’s just we got him when owned by this twat. Until Ashley leaves we’ll accomplish absolutely nothing, he’s literally looking at the miracle job Rafa did last season and thinking ‘he can do that again’ in the hope the clubs coffers swell a bit more. Completely agree, it got past the stage of working him out years ago. We're a semi-professional premier league club till the club finally escapes his grip and I can't see it happening at the minute other than his death or a colossal financial catastrophe on his part. My ST has went up £100 and at the minute I'm not even sure I'll renew especially when I need to personally go up and maybe shift seats. Five relegations in our 130 odd year history and two are down to him in less than a decade and probably another one in the near future if he's still here. He got Rafa gift wrapped but it means Jack Shit to him other than a potential ball ache from Rafa wanting things and a bonus of him adding value to the club. The bloke's fucking poison at the end of the day. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30160 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Really the only advantage of having Ashley as a owner is that if we're relegated then his pockets are deep enough to support us. Not out of any feelings of responsibility but it's done to protect his asset. When we're in the PL pretty much any of us could own the club and we'd see no difference in the levels of investment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 You have to wonder what he gets out of owning us. He’s not living the dream as an owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34718 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: It’s almost like if that did happen, you’d take some kind of perverse pleasure from it. Is there a different kind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21756 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, Kitman said: You have to wonder what he gets out of owning us. He’s not living the dream as an owner free advertising on a global stage for the business he really cares about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Just now, Dr Gloom said: free advertising on a global stage for the business he really cares about Thats tragic if thats all he gets out of it. He could be lagering it up with his toadies for 90 minutes watching us pummel the opposition, before heading off in the chopper for clubbing, coke and hookers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Maybe he skips the football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 In which case sell the fucking club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21756 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 aye, the rest of it sounds about right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: It’s almost like if that did happen, you’d take some kind of perverse pleasure from it. Give over man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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