ewerk 30611 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Andrew’s point stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 I'd sell him for £45m like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 20 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said: I'd sell him for £45m like Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 24 minutes ago, Andrew said: Why? Purely because Benitez would be able to replace him for a fraction of that/turn somebody else mint and improve the rest of the team. We need to spend a lot of money on forwards. As much as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Andrew said: Why? So he can wank over pixellated photos of fat mike blowing the cash snorting ketamine off hooker's flaps in The Sun On Sunday. Edited June 6, 2018 by Anorthernsoul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Andrew 4748 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 36 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said: Purely because Benitez would be able to replace him for a fraction of that/turn somebody else mint and improve the rest of the team. We need to spend a lot of money on forwards. As much as possible 33 minutes ago, Anorthernsoul said: So he can wank over pixellated photos of fat mike blowing the cash snorting ketamine off hooker's flaps in The Sun On Sunday. Yere are two scenarios offered for what would happen with “the lascelles money” ANS’ is far more likely. Any fan saying we should sell any of our good performers so we can reinvest the money is a fool. We’d see perhaps a quarter of it spent and would be worse off, especially if lascelles went, his ability is one thing but his leadership is a different thing to replace entirely and we’re yet to see him reach his peak as a player imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 18 minutes ago, Andrew said: Yere are two scenarios offered for what would happen with “the lascelles money” ANS’ is far more likely. Any fan saying we should sell any of our good performers so we can reinvest the money is a fool. We’d see perhaps a quarter of it spent and would be worse off, especially if lascelles went, his ability is one thing but his leadership is a different thing to replace entirely and we’re yet to see him reach his peak as a player imo He looks better than his raw ability when playing in a Benitez system. £45m is too much to turn down for him and Benitez could find another leader. I think Benitez would sell him for that as well if he had guarantees of reinvesting it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3355 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said: £45m is too much to turn down for him and Benitez could find another leader. I think Benitez would sell him for that as well if he had guarantees of reinvesting it Bullshit. What did Liverpool pay for that average defender last season, £70m, that makes Lascelles worth well over £45m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 I’m with Gloomy on this issue. Replacing Lascelles with someone of similar quality and with the same leadership ability/club impact would be difficult. Not least cos he’s English, a good character and well settled at the club. Then theres the issue of who we can realistically attract, regardless of what money is made available to be rreinvest in new players. Im sure Benitez would be happy to sell - he said as much recently - if it was for big big money that he got to spend. Thats probably more like sammynb big money than 30 mill though. I think there’ll be a lot of speculation like this, given his obvious talent. I’m not going to shit the bed about it, all our players are permanently for sale under this regime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 877 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Liverpool paid 75m for Van Dijk, let's start at that price before we even come to the table. But to be honest I wouldn't sell him at any price. Lascelles embodies the new NUFC under Benitez and he's only going to get better. A player like him is probably worth 10-12 points over the course of the season alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 He'll go for Sammynb big money and Benitez will get Family Fortunes big money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 11 hours ago, TheGingerQuiff said: He looks better than his raw ability when playing in a Benitez system. £45m is too much to turn down for him and Benitez could find another leader. I think Benitez would sell him for that as well if he had guarantees of reinvesting it Me too but they'd have to be iron clad. He won't though will he? He had public promises of money all through last summer and got fuck all, why would guarantees be any different now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 8 hours ago, Kitman said: I’m with Gloomy on this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 29 minutes ago, Andrew said: Ahem. Oops. I’m with Andrew on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30611 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Yeah but according to Charnley when we go to sign his replacement there's wages, agents fees and other hidden costs involved. Basically we end up with Richard Dunne. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 23 minutes ago, ewerk said: Yeah but according to Charnley when we go to sign his replacement there's wages, agents fees and other hidden costs involved. Basically we end up with Richard Dunne. Or Charles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3355 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 31 minutes ago, ewerk said: Basically we end up with Richard Dunne. 7 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: Or Charles. More like we'll end up with Ukrainian player, Bukeetov. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 We'd be more likely to end up with a bukakke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) In a worrying update from the Chronicle’s Mark Douglas, it’s been revealed today that Mike Ashley is demanding that Rafa Benitez signs a new long-term contract before he’ll hand him money to spend this summer – leading to a stand off between the two parties. In short, Ashley won’t back Rafa until he agrees to a new deal, but Benitez won’t entertain any new contract until Ashley proves he’ll show ambition this summer. This really is frustrating. Given their previous failings and the broken promises Benitez has been dealt, it’s to be expected that Rafa wants to see proof of their intentions and ambitions before agreeing to any new deal. It sounds like Ashley is being awkward and unreasonable once again, however, leading to a stand off between the two parties. Edited June 7, 2018 by trooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30611 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Ashley's approach makes absolutely no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, ewerk said: Ashley's approach makes absolutely no sense. It makes sense if he's not willing to spend much and isn't that arsed about Benitez staying in the long term. Actually that doens't make sense but Ashley's mindset rarely does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9775 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Alex said: It makes sense if he's not willing to spend much and isn't that arsed about Benitez staying in the long term. Actually that doens't make sense but Ashley's mindset rarely does It is consistent in trying to shift responsibilities. It isn’t different to his handling of attempting club sales and his handling of negotiations with previous popular managers (Keegan and Shearer) when they demand sensible things he doesn’t want to accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Isegrim said: It is consistent in trying to shift responsibilities. It isn’t different to his handling of attempting club sales and his handling of negotiations with previous popular managers (Keegan and Shearer) when they demand sensible things he doesn’t want to accept. Yeah, that's what I meant really. He probably knows Benitez won't stay beyond his current contract because he isn't prepared to give him enough funds (I doubt Benitez is being unreasonable, he just realises the squad needs strengthening) but he wants to try and make it look like it's Benitez's fault for not signing the long-term deal first. It's amazing if so and Ashley actually thinks anyone buys that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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