The Fish 10962 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 13 hours ago, wolfy said: Imagine all that money going on fictional endeavours. Another scam to rob the already stretched individual of their hard earned money. Privatisation pretence or fictional space adventures, etc. We seem to accept being duped because it's just easier and less hassle. No we don't. That's another lie Wolfy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31195 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 13 hours ago, wolfy said: Imagine all that money going on fictional endeavours. Another scam to rob the already stretched individual of their hard earned money. Privatisation pretence or fictional space adventures, etc. We seem to accept being duped because it's just easier and less hassle. John Lennon's lost verse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 9 minutes ago, The Fish said: No we don't. That's another lie Wolfy. But we actually do. We may not directly sit there and say, " ohhhh we're always being duped." What I mean is, most people will refuse to question stuff that is sold to them, which begs questions. We all do it, but feel free to believe you're not took in by anything if that's how you go. I still get duped to this very day and will do until I expire, in all kinds of ways, like 99.9% of others. It doesn't just have to be in so called space science. It can be in anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10962 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, wolfy said: But we actually do. We may not directly sit there and say, " ohhhh we're always being duped." What I mean is, most people will refuse to question stuff that is sold to them, which begs questions. We all do it, but feel free to believe you're not took in by anything if that's how you go. I still get duped to this very day and will do until I expire, in all kinds of ways, like 99.9% of others. It doesn't just have to be in so called space science. It can be in anything. We actually don't. Also, PROOOOOOOOOVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 1 hour ago, The Fish said: We actually don't. Also, PROOOOOOOOOVE IT Who's we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10962 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 2 hours ago, wolfy said: Whose wee? I'm sure the nurse can help you identify it's source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 30 minutes ago, The Fish said: I'm sure the nurse can help you identify it's source. Ahhh, I see. Ok; I didn't realise you had a nurse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22139 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 go home, wolfy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10962 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 11 minutes ago, wolfy said: Ahhh, I see. Ok; I didn't realise you had a nurse. End of the day Wolfy my man, you dismiss claims that have proof and evidence unless you see it with your own eyes, and yet you believe in something that has no proof or evidence. If you can't see the hypocrisy, I think it's best you hold your tongue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15716 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 You can't PROVE the hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, The Fish said: End of the day Wolfy my man, you dismiss claims that have proof and evidence unless you see it with your own eyes, and yet you believe in something that has no proof or evidence. If you can't see the hypocrisy, I think it's best you hold your tongue. Nahhh. I've said many times that I have alternative musings on what could be a better answer to the one we are schooled into. You have your schooled thoughts and I have my thoughts. Edited May 26, 2017 by wolfy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15716 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 What happens if you encounter someone with non-schooled thoughts that contradict your own non-schooled thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Meenzer said: What happens if you encounter someone with non-schooled thoughts that contradict your own non-schooled thoughts? Look into it all and see if anything they theorise over can be added or better what I m,use over myself. If not, then I just carry on putting my thoughts forward whilst disregarding the mainstream global nonsense. There are many alternate theories to a globe model. There can only be one correct answer to what Earth is and no person might be entirely correct or even all theories put together may not cover any large percentage of it. It's all down to basic natural science and natural logic to piece any snippets together. One thing is for sure, regardless of whether alternate theories are close to the mark, or not.....is.....the Earth is absolutely not a rotating globe spinning in space on a 23.5 degree axis at 1037 mph at the equator and also rotating around a central sun that is 93 million mile distant, 850,000 mile diameter, at 67,000 mph whilst also taking an elliptical so called orbit that brings it in closer or further away. It is utter nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5294 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Wolfy, I don't think anyone is even arguing the theory anymore - Fish was just making a point that you're rejecting all of our evidence based on a series of parameters (lack of evidence, need to see it for yourself, etc) that you are also failing to apply to your own theory. As such, your argument is basically just that you think the earth is flat because you think the earth is flat. Now, think about how that argument looks to us - and you'll see why no one is convinced. The big difference is that some of us have seen proof that the earth is not flat - you think our eyes are lying to us and so on, but at least we can point to evidence (however flawed you might think it is) to support our conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15716 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, wolfy said: One thing is for sure, regardless of whether alternate theories are close to the mark, or not.....is.....the Earth is absolutely not a rotating globe spinning in space on a 23.5 degree axis at 1037 mph at the equator and also rotating around a central sun that is 93 million mile distant, 850,000 mile diameter, at 67,000 mph whilst also taking an elliptical so called orbit that brings it in closer or further away. It is utter nonsense. That doesn't seem very open-minded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35567 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Wolfy, I don't think anyone is even arguing the theory anymore - Fish was just making a point that you're rejecting all of our evidence based on a series of parameters (lack of evidence, need to see it for yourself, etc) that you are also failing to apply to your own theory. As such, your argument is basically just that you think the earth is flat because you think the earth is flat. Now, think about how that argument looks to us - and you'll see why no one is convinced. The big difference is that some of us have seen proof that the earth is not flat - you think our eyes are lying to us and so on, but at least we can point to evidence (however flawed you might think it is) to support our conclusion. It's entirely up to anyone what they want to argue or not. I've put my musings forward because I was asked about them. People don't accept any of it or really grasp what I'm saying and that's fine by me. This isn't about my theory, it's about everything we've been schooled into and how much each individual abides by it or questions some of it. You keep telling me that there's proof that the Earth is not flat and in the flat as a pancake sense you would be correct because there's gradients and mountains, etc. I neither follow a flat Earth from that thought process either, which I've already mentioned. What you cannot do is prove that Earth is a globe. All you can do to push a proof, is to follow what you've been schooled into,a s we all did. When people sit back and actually look into it all individually, without peer pressure, then some actually see how ridiculous the spinning globe is. Just seeing how ridiculous it is does not mean any person has to go looking for alternate theories as to what it could be. That's entirely down to a person willing to spend the time doing the huge almost infinite jigsaw and most don't have time for that due to unbelievable busy schedules, such as tweeting or X-box and what not, whilst others are really engrossed in their work or unwilling to even dare to take a little peek outside of the box. That's just the way it all is. Most people are terrified to openly admit to anything that goes against the norm with things like this because they ultimately know that the end result is their social standing takes a massive nosedive due to the masses parroting the same narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 16 minutes ago, Meenzer said: That doesn't seem very open-minded. It must be more open because I believed all that crap for long enough, so I must have opened my mind to get away from that schooled process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10962 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 37 minutes ago, wolfy said: It's entirely up to anyone what they want to argue or not. I've put my musings forward because I was asked about them. People don't accept any of it or really grasp what I'm saying and that's fine by me. This isn't about my theory, it's about everything we've been schooled into and how much each individual abides by it or questions some of it. You keep telling me that there's proof that the Earth is not flat and in the flat as a pancake sense you would be correct because there's gradients and mountains, etc. I neither follow a flat Earth from that thought process either, which I've already mentioned. What you cannot do is prove that Earth is a globe. All you can do to push a proof, is to follow what you've been schooled into,a s we all did. When people sit back and actually look into it all individually, without peer pressure, then some actually see how ridiculous the spinning globe is. Just seeing how ridiculous it is does not mean any person has to go looking for alternate theories as to what it could be. That's entirely down to a person willing to spend the time doing the huge almost infinite jigsaw and most don't have time for that due to unbelievable busy schedules, such as tweeting or X-box and what not, whilst others are really engrossed in their work or unwilling to even dare to take a little peek outside of the box. That's just the way it all is. Most people are terrified to openly admit to anything that goes against the norm with things like this because they ultimately know that the end result is their social standing takes a massive nosedive due to the masses parroting the same narrative. Yeah that wasn't the point Rayvin was making. Can you tell us what point you think he was making? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 1 minute ago, The Fish said: Yeah that wasn't the point Rayvin was making. Can you tell us what point you think he was making? I gave you my answers. Can you see the point I'm making? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10962 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 1 minute ago, wolfy said: I gave you my answers. Can you see the point I'm making? Can you see the point Rayvin was making? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35567 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 What's the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, The Fish said: Can you see the point Rayvin was making? There was no real point. I gave my answer to clarify it. Can you see my point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10962 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Just now, wolfy said: There was no real point. There was a fairly self-evident point. There was also a point to my post. Do you need the points explained to you again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Just now, The Fish said: There was a fairly self-evident point. There was also a point to my post. Do you need the points explained to you again? If you feel the need to do it, go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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