wolfy 12 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 11 hours ago, Renton said: Quote You literally say you don't believe in any field of science or even mathematics ffs! Not quite right, is it? There's absolutely plenty that I accept and a hell of a lot that I don't accept as being a full on truth. The world isn't going to change because I think this so there's no worries. 11 hours ago, Renton said: Quote Or any news event. You tell me how we pick out the realistic stuff from the news these days? Most people know that the news media lie their arses off or use propaganda, etc, so what's the issue with me not trusting them? 11 hours ago, Renton said: Quote Every time you are presented with evidence, be it mathematical proofs or HD video, or even the evidence of your own eyes, you dismiss it out of hand, often with a pathetic joke. Present me with evidence that you 100% know is correct in what I'm arguing against. I'll present one thing I do know. Water will always seek a flat level. You can verify this because this is natural science. This is the real natural science that all people can verify for themselves and accept. The only time that changes is when the story tellers add in magical fantasy and by intimidation techniques, manage to make people follow that thought process to the point that some will never question it and will guard it like a scrap yard dog. 11 hours ago, Renton said: So no. My conclusion is you are either mad, or a complete cunt. I'm edging to the latter at the moment but tbf you might just be as stupid and delusional as you present. Impossible to say for certain. Maybe have all of them and it'll save you pondering. I bet you never thought of that, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 8 hours ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: What are you proving with this? Is this about the edges appearing like they curve? That's atmospheric squeeze on the edges but notice the surface is flat. Now see if you can find one of water staying on a ball of any size that you can physically verify all of the water stays on, all around. Just remember, you need to prove stuff to yourself, not to me. I'm just helping people see how ridiculous mainstream supposed scientists have totally brainwashed people into accepting nonsense without realising it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10963 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 53 minutes ago, wolfy said: What are you proving with this? Is this about the edges appearing like they curve? That's atmospheric squeeze on the edges but notice the surface is flat. Now see if you can find one of water staying on a ball of any size that you can physically verify all of the water stays on, all around. Just remember, you need to prove stuff to yourself, not to me. I'm just helping people see how ridiculous mainstream supposed scientists have totally brainwashed people into accepting nonsense without realising it. You aren't accounting for size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3957 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 hour ago, wolfy said: What are you proving with this? Is this about the edges appearing like they curve? That's atmospheric squeeze on the edges but notice the surface is flat. Now see if you can find one of water staying on a ball of any size that you can physically verify all of the water stays on, all around. Just remember, you need to prove stuff to yourself, not to me. I'm just helping people see how ridiculous mainstream supposed scientists have totally brainwashed people into accepting nonsense without realising it. Actually you're just making yourself look like an unhinged twat who should be in a padded room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 8 minutes ago, The Fish said: You aren't accounting for size. Size is unimportant with this stuff. It just means more of the same stuff. The issue is in keeping oceans and lakes, plus flowing rivers and all other bodies of water, not to mention water falls and all the rest of it...on the globe you've been coaxed into accepting, whilst spinning against a supposed near vacuum of space and yet losing supposedly, some atmosphere to so called space and yet all water magically adheres to the globe. Just sitting back and logically thinking about all of it, not just this, should make people seriously question the supposed science of it, told by people who were more probable decent story tellers than actual real investigative scientists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: Actually you're just making yourself look like an unhinged twat who should be in a padded room. Is this your final offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21978 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, wolfy said: Not quite right, is it? There's absolutely plenty that I accept and a hell of a lot that I don't accept as being a full on truth. The world isn't going to change because I think this so there's no worries. You tell me how we pick out the realistic stuff from the news these days? Most people know that the news media lie their arses off or use propaganda, etc, so what's the issue with me not trusting them? Present me with evidence that you 100% know is correct in what I'm arguing against. I'll present one thing I do know. Water will always seek a flat level. You can verify this because this is natural science. This is the real natural science that all people can verify for themselves and accept. The only time that changes is when the story tellers add in magical fantasy and by intimidation techniques, manage to make people follow that thought process to the point that some will never question it and will guard it like a scrap yard dog. Maybe have all of them and it'll save you pondering. I bet you never thought of that, right? It is correct though. You reject the concept of atoms because you can't see them. But without this underlying understanding of nature, nearly all of modern physical science is broken. All chemistry is a hoax. Most if not all of physics, as well as modern biology and medicine. You're too ignorant to even understand this, and I certainly don't have the inclination to enlighten such a stupid person further, suffice it to say you should be grateful you still benefit from the technology this vast amount of accumulated knowledge brings. Pity you use it espousing shite on the internet, but there you go. As for news. Given your opinions on 9/11, I think I'm justified in asking if you think it is likely that Manchester was a false flag event? Yes or no please. Edited May 25, 2017 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3957 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, wolfy said: Is this your final offer? It's just my opinion, I'm not trying to convince anybody. They can look at the evidence with their own eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Just now, Renton said: Quote It is correct though. You reject the concept of atoms because you can't see them. But without this underlying understanding of nature, nearly all of modern physical science is broken. All chemistry is a hoax. Most if not all of physics, as well as modern biology and medicine. Why is all of science broken if I reject what they say about atoms? People reject god and you can't see god, can you? And yet religion is huge, right? When scientists tell you they split the atom, you accept it as we all did. They managed to split something that could not be seen, so how did they manage to do it? Explain that and we can go on from there as to why I should accept stuff instead of questioning. I'm looking for the REAL reasons as to what is what, instead of the nonsense we are handed on a plate to eat without daring to leave scraps. Just now, Renton said: Quote You're too ignorant to even understand this, and I certainly don't he the inclination to enlighten such a stupid person further, suffice it to say you should be grateful you still benefit from the technology this vast amount of accumulated knowledge brings. Pity you are it espousing shite on the internet, but there you go. Nobody's asking you to tell me anything. You're making life simple for yourself by copping out. All I ever see is, "no wolfy it's not. It's real wolfy. We know, wolfy. It's been proved, wolfy. None of it is doing anything and you know this. You simply cannot directly prove anything I'm arguing against except to pander to mainstream science as your open book of supposed facts. Just now, Renton said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: It's just my opinion, I'm not trying to convince anybody. They can look at the evidence with their own eyes. Is that your final offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21978 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 8 minutes ago, wolfy said: Why is all of science broken if I reject what they say about atoms? People reject god and you can't see god, can you? And yet religion is huge, right? When scientists tell you they split the atom, you accept it as we all did. They managed to split something that could not be seen, so how did they manage to do it? Explain that and we can go on from there as to why I should accept stuff instead of questioning. I'm looking for the REAL reasons as to what is what, instead of the nonsense we are handed on a plate to eat without daring to leave scraps. Nobody's asking you to tell me anything. You're making life simple for yourself by copping out. All I ever see is, "no wolfy it's not. It's real wolfy. We know, wolfy. It's been proved, wolfy. None of it is doing anything and you know this. You simply cannot directly prove anything I'm arguing against except to pander to mainstream science as your open book of supposed facts. If you don't understand how the while physical world is based on 93 odd fundamental atom, themselves made of more fundamental building blocks (allowing them to he split s you put it), you're just showing complete ignorance of ALL science. Something you are apparent proud of. Oh aye, and then there's the mathematical equations are as hoax bollocks. Your refusal to comment on the Manchester bombing speaks volumes abut how toxic you are despite your best attempt to appear benign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, Renton said: If you don't understand how the while physical world is based on 93 odd fundamental atom, themselves made of more fundamental building blocks (allowing them to he split s you put it), you're just showing complete ignorance of ALL science. Something you are apparent proud of. Oh aye, and then there's the mathematical equations are as hoax bollocks. Any time you want to explain all this stuff that everyone seems to know, feel free to share it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21978 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, wolfy said: Any time you want to explain all this stuff that everyone seems to know, feel free to share it. Who says everyone knows it? You don't need to understand this stuff to get on with your daily life, but you do need it if you work in a science or medical based discipline, which I guess is s lot of us. Do you expect me to confer to you 20 years education and 20 years research on a football message board? No thanks. As for your refusal to engage with the Manchester question, are you too cowardly to be open about your opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Just now, Renton said: Quote Who says everyone knows it? You don't need to understand this stuff to get on with your daily life, but you do need it if you work in a science or medical based discipline, which I guess is s lot of us. Do you expect me to confer to you 20 years education and 20 years research on a football message board? No thanks. Oh, ok, I just thought you knew facts about it all. No problem. Just now, Renton said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10963 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 48 minutes ago, wolfy said: Size is unimportant with this stuff. It just means more of the same stuff. The issue is in keeping oceans and lakes, plus flowing rivers and all other bodies of water, not to mention water falls and all the rest of it...on the globe you've been coaxed into accepting, whilst spinning against a supposed near vacuum of space and yet losing supposedly, some atmosphere to so called space and yet all water magically adheres to the globe. Just sitting back and logically thinking about all of it, not just this, should make people seriously question the supposed science of it, told by people who were more probable decent story tellers than actual real investigative scientists. You said that size did matter beforehand. Now it doesn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Just now, The Fish said: You said that size did matter beforehand. Now it doesn't? It certainly doesn't matter in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15716 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Matter doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10963 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Just now, wolfy said: It certainly doesn't matter in this case. How does it feel Wolfy, when your world crumbles around you? How does it feel when FISHAMANIA RUNS WILD OVER YOU?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Just now, The Fish said: How does it feel Wolfy, when your world crumbles around you? How does it feel when FISHAMANIA RUNS WILD OVER YOU?! I'll be sure to let you know whenever it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35567 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 15 hours ago, wolfy said: The professor at the university standing in front of the class talks about gravity. "How can we know it's gravity?" He says. All the students look at each other a bit bemused. The professor then drops his pen. "THis is how we know." And basically this is what we are dealt. It is what it is because they tell you it is. I thought you only based your theories on stuff you'd experienced first hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 14043 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 This still going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15716 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 This story's infinite like the Longines Symphonette. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ewerk 31195 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 I think we need to sit that fella down with Wolfy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Imagine all that money going on fictional endeavours. Another scam to rob the already stretched individual of their hard earned money. Privatisation pretence or fictional space adventures, etc. We seem to accept being duped because it's just easier and less hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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