wolfy 12 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Park Life said: http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/askaphysicist/physics-answer.cfm?uid=20110218025229 Yeah, the old inertia stuff. An object in motion tends to stay in motion unless acted upon by an unbalanced force. Basically no object will stay in motion, because it will always be acted on by friction, at all times...unless we get taken to supposed space in this supposed space vacuum that magically allows something in motion to just stay inn motion forever. But let's go with it. You see, the helicopter can be dragged with the Earth and yet clouds can go the opposite way. Does nobody find that odd? Clouds are just water that has been taken from Earth, going at speed of the Earth, apparently and yet they can move in all directions and immediately defy the Earth from which they came from, yet a big helicopter and everything else that can hit the sky gets dragged along as if a big fist is holding them. Nobody see anything odd about it all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 1 minute ago, wolfy said: Yeah, the old inertia stuff. An object in motion tends to stay in motion unless acted upon by an unbalanced force.No Basically no object will stay in motion, because it will always be acted on by friction, at all times...unless we get taken to supposed space in this supposed space vacuum that magically allows something in motion to just stay inn motion forever. But let's go with it. You see, the helicopter can be dragged with the Earth and yet clouds can go the opposite way. Does nobody find that odd? Clouds are just water that has been taken from Earth, going at speed of the Earth, apparently and yet they can move in all directions and immediately defy the Earth from which they came from, yet a big helicopter and everything else that can hit the sky gets dragged along as if a big fist is holding them. Nobody see anything odd about it all? No. The clouds are being affected by weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Park Life said: It's because the passenger was traveling at the same speed as the plane when he jumped. And the helicopter was traveling at the same speed as the earth when it took off. http://www.physicscentral.com/experiment/askaphysicist/physics-answer.cfm?uid=20110218025229 But the plane is a tube pushing into an atmosphere. The person inside the plane is equalised in a friction grip. A pressure grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Just now, Park Life said: No. The clouds are being affected by weather. Weather is part of the atmosphere isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, wolfy said: No, but then again Earth wouldn't resemble that. This is one thing given out to supposedly prove a spinning globe. It doesn't even follow the globe process as an answer. It's a cheat answer. What do you mean? This reply is unclear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, wolfy said: Weather is part of the atmosphere isn't it? It's a system within atmosphere. It's has some ratios of independence to the atmosphere to do with pressure zones and temperature fluctuations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, wolfy said: But the plane is a tube pushing into an atmosphere. The person inside the plane is equalised in a friction grip. A pressure grip. Gibberish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Fish said: What do you mean? This reply is unclear. The Earth and atmosphere that goes from sea level pressure to extreme low pressure at a great height. A plane with a pressurised tube going against an atmosphere with the plane itself creating the friction on itself. The Earth supposedly goes against the atmosphere but manages to drag it all with it. It's senseless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35063 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 9 minutes ago, wolfy said: Weather is part of the atmosphere isn't it? Prove it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Park Life said: It's a system within atmosphere. It's has some ratios of independence to the atmosphere to do with pressure zones and temperature fluctuations. How can it have independence to atmosphere? It is atmosphere. It's in one system. It's a system that produces high and low pressure due to expansion and contraction oif molecules creating friction as molecules expand into more dense molecules, which creates the winds we feel. There is no extra atmosphere dragging us along. You either get dragged along by a hurricane or you walk about in a summer dress in a light breeze. Or if you're me, A pair of hot pants and a smug look not caring what people think because I've had worse on toontastic. Just kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Park Life said: Gibberish. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Just now, wolfy said: The Earth and atmosphere that goes from sea level pressure to extreme low pressure at a great height. A plane with a pressurised tube going against an atmosphere with the plane itself creating the friction on itself. The Earth supposedly goes against the atmosphere but manages to drag it all with it. It's senseless. This is senseless. Try and type your thoughts again because this is a garbled message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Fish said: This is senseless. Try and type your thoughts again because this is a garbled message. It's there and explained. Take some time to get the thoughts of it. It's only garbled because naturally you oppose it and follow a set path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Just now, wolfy said: It's there and explained. Take some time to get the thoughts of it. It's only garbled because naturally you oppose it and follow a set path. How condescending is this? You literally wrote a sentence that doesn't make grammatical sense, let alone scientific sense. "A plane with a pressurised tube going against an atmosphere with the plane itself creating the friction on itself." Why does a plane have a tube with it? How is the plane creating the friction on itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 1 minute ago, The Fish said: How condescending is this? You literally wrote a sentence that doesn't make grammatical sense, let alone scientific sense. "A plane with a pressurised tube going against an atmosphere with the plane itself creating the friction on itself." Why does a plane have a tube with it? How is the plane creating the friction on itself? The plane is a pressurised tube with wings. Simple enough. The plane is using its engines to push itself through atmosphere and creating friction on itself, externally, whilst the inside of it is equalised with pressure. Is that clear enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Just now, wolfy said: The plane is a pressurised tube with wings. Simple enough. The plane is using its engines to push itself through atmosphere and creating friction on itself, externally, whilst the inside of it is equalised with pressure. Is that clear enough? Ah, now see, when you use actual grammatically sound sentences your silliness seems less silly. So you accept that passenger jumping vertically within the confines of the plane will land where they took off from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Just now, The Fish said: So you accept that passenger jumping vertically within the confines of the plane will land where they took off from? Yep, assuming a steady speed and no acceleration, which would change the pressurisation making it unequal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10855 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, wolfy said: Yep, assuming a steady speed and no acceleration, which would change the pressurisation making it unequal. So if you accept that, why do you reject exactly the same scenario occurring on a bigger scale? A helicopter "leaping" vertically inside a pressurised container (the atmosphere) from the earth and returning to where it took off from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21912 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Oh great, Wolfy is back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21591 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 47 minutes ago, Park Life said: Gibberish. An excellent precis of everything Wolfy has ever posted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 1 minute ago, The Fish said: So if you accept that, why do you reject exactly the same scenario occurring on a bigger scale? A helicopter "leaping" vertically inside a pressurised container (the atmosphere) from the earth and returning to where it took off from? Like I said. In your plane you are inside a pressurised tube pushing into atmosphere and creating friction on the plane. You are independent of that external friction and are equalised inside a pressure tube. On your globe you are supposedly spinning at over 1000 mph with your atmosphere supposedly gripping a solid Earth and also water at exactly the same speed and yet this is supposed to mimic your inner plane, yet your plane is also moving into friction, whereas your Earth is supposedly just spinning in a so called space vacuum. They are not the same scenario at all. It's a nice dupe but that's all it is by those that think this stuff up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Monkeys Fist 42387 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Wolfy, explain seasons to me,mate. How do they happen in your new "cell" system. Whilst you're at it, have a crack at earthquakes and volcanoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 It's amazing how we are told that the Earth and atmosphere are in exact unison and drag any person or object with it in exact unison and yet on the flip side they use coriolis effect . The beauty about mainstream scientists...well, the one's that are paraded before us as supposed genius, is, they can come up with any old crap they want to because it will be accepted under the pretence that it was peer reviewed. People getting paid to feed us all with pseudo-science in many respects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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