wolfy 12 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, The Fish said: Quote She'd probably say that Bruce Willis isn't her father, that was a film and that her actual father is still touring with Aerosmith. Most probable, but only because we were told it was a movie. What's the difference with the other so called astronauts being shown doing similar things as regards going up in shuttles and into so called space? The difference is, we get told that this is the real deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34279 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, wolfy said: How do you even have an horizon on a globe? Got to be a wind up Edited May 19, 2017 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, The Fish said: The world is flat because maps written on paper are flat. Mona Lisa was Flat Stanley's grandma. Yep, but nobody uses any globe to navigate, they use flat maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, Alex said: Is that supposed to deflect attention away from your daft theories being picked to bits? Have a word, man. Not at all. I'm merely saying what is the reality. I don't see anything being picked to bits. I see it as being weakly picked at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10543 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, wolfy said: Level to the ground on a globe? Never mind the scale. A globe is a globe and will not be level no matter how much someone says it is. Your plane flies by a artificial horizon on the instrument panel to keep it level. How do you even have an horizon on a globe? If you were up in the air looking over a globe, horizontally, you would be looking at so called space or sky. Look over a flattish potential circle and you will then always have a horizon. you have to be on the wind up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34279 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, wolfy said: Not at all. I'm merely saying what is the reality. I don't see anything being picked to bits. I see it as being weakly picked at. I'd be worried by my line of argument were that not the case tbh. Can you explain this: Edited May 19, 2017 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, Alex said: Got to be a wind up No wind up. Up in a plane at height on a supposed globe would render your horizon not a horizon. The horizon is always your line of level horizontal sight. Move over a globe and you would lose it. It's basic and simple, but maybe too simple for people to actually bother with, because global stuff is passed off as magical concepts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10543 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, wolfy said: Yep, but nobody uses any globe to navigate, they use flat maps. You're right, nobody uses a globe to navigate. Except for DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10543 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 minute ago, wolfy said: No wind up. Up in a plane at height on a supposed globe would render your horizon not a horizon. The horizon is always your line of level horizontal sight. Move over a globe and you would lose it. It's basic and simple, but maybe too simple for people to actually bother with, because global stuff is passed off as magical concepts. Pretty much the only part of this post that makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Alex said: I'd be worried by my line of argument were that not the case tbh. Can you explain this: Any explanation for this. Distance and weather, etc? If not, bring up some that you're fairly sure of and we can discuss them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34279 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 minute ago, wolfy said: No wind up. Up in a plane at height on a supposed globe would render your horizon not a horizon. The horizon is always your line of level horizontal sight. Move over a globe and you would lose it. It's basic and simple, but maybe too simple for people to actually bother with, because global stuff is passed off as magical concepts. Forgive me if I'm wrong and missing something here but, if you're flying over something relatively flat, like the ocean for example on a clear day and you're flying level with it then, in order to see the horizon you would need to look (ever so slightly down) for your eyes to be focussed on it wouldn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15197 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 29 minutes ago, wolfy said: You can circumnavigate a circle, so how would you know? Because you'd be doing it north to south. Ah HAH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 minute ago, The Fish said: You're right, nobody uses a globe to navigate. Except for DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNN I think I know where you've been going wrong. We'll keep this as out little secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34279 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Just now, wolfy said: Any explanation for this. Distance and weather, etc? If not, bring up some that you're fairly sure of and we can discuss them. Why can't you see the bottoms of the buildings in the distance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15197 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, The Fish said: You're right, nobody uses a globe to navigate. Except for DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNN Don't be ridiculous, animals can't stand up or be members of gentlemen's clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Just now, Alex said: Forgive me if I'm wrong and missing something here but, if you're flying over something relatively flat, like the ocean for example on a clear day and you're flying level with it then, in order to see the horizon you would need to look (ever so slightly down) for your eyes to be focussed on it wouldn't you? No, because you have a vanishing point of ground and sky which become your horizon line. You will always see it at eye level no matter how high you are. The only change is the distance to the horizon, which depends on your height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34279 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 If the Reform Club were to admit animals they would have to let in those most British of animals - the Lion (and unicorns, of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 41508 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Alex said: Getting a bit personal now like 1 hour ago, Meenzer said: Do or do not. There is no try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34279 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Just now, wolfy said: No, because you have a vanishing point of ground and sky which become your horizon line. You will always see it at eye level no matter how high you are. The only change is the distance to the horizon, which depends on your height. I was putting it out there to the sane ones tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Meenzer said: Because you'd be doing it north to south. Ah HAH! Which way on a globe you you set off from north to south? If I plant you bang in the middle of the so called north pole with your compass, then which way is south and which way is east and west? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34279 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, wolfy said: Which way on a globe you you set off from north to south? If I plant you bang in the middle of the so called north pole with your compass, then which way is south and which way is east and west? All directions are south Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 41508 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 So, according to you, Wolfy, we aren't actually northerners then? We are closer to the hub, and so we should be hubbers. Correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, Alex said: Why can't you see the bottoms of the buildings in the distance? Same as hulls and masts of ships. your horizon line meets lower light and higher light. Basically you see through more atmosphere the higher up you look and less the more level you look through the atmosphere. More molecules lower at sea level than higher. It may not appear a lot but it will remarkably change your viewing perspective. That's why you can see further if you elevate. Think of a lifeguard in a high chair/tower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34279 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Feel a bit bad about this now like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15197 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 minute ago, wolfy said: Same as hulls and masts of ships. your horizon line meets lower light and higher light. Basically you see through more atmosphere the higher up you look and less the more level you look through the atmosphere. More molecules lower at sea level than higher. It may not appear a lot but it will remarkably change your viewing perspective. That's why you can see further if you elevate. Think of a lifeguard in a high chair/tower. If you stay crouched down, you're legally blind and can claim benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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