Ayatollah Hermione 13857 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Wolfy as the secret return of KSA confirmed tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 I personally believe the spinning globe is the biggest load of nonsense we've been coaxed into accepting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 1 minute ago, wolfy said: I personally believe the spinning globe is the biggest load of nonsense we've been coaxed into accepting. All the other planets are round. The ball is the most common shape in the universe. Flat earthers are all shills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Just now, Park Life said: All the other planets are round. The ball is the most common shape in the universe. Flat earthers are all shills. How do you know all other planets are round? How do you actually know those things you call planets, are actually what you've been told? As for flat Earth theorists being shills. That's your opinion based on whatever you base it on. It also depends on what people think of when they think of a flat Earth. I don't follow a flat disc that water falls off or anything like that. I believe it's a cell we all live in, not on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 12 minutes ago, wolfy said: We all have opinions on many things. I happen to have opinions on things that the majority believe is crazy, yet the truth is, we are only geared to generally follow mass opinion if it's rubber stamped as an official opinion where mainstream is concerned. To think that a man can talk to his invisible friend or a woman could talk to her invisible friend and yet be ridiculed to the point of frenzy in some cases, down to actually being sectioned. Basically classed as absolute nutcases and yet a crowd can walk into a building and talk to their invisible god and be looked upon as pillars of society. Strange world isn't it? Interesting point, well made 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, wolfy said: How do you know all other planets are round? How do you actually know those things you call planets, are actually what you've been told? As for flat Earth theorists being shills. That's your opinion based on whatever you base it on. It also depends on what people think of when they think of a flat Earth. I don't follow a flat disc that water falls off or anything like that. I believe it's a cell we all live in, not on. What would be the point about lying about the nature of the earth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30550 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 It's to keep up this charade about gravity. Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 19 minutes ago, wolfy said: We all have opinions on many things. I happen to have opinions on things that the majority believe is crazy, yet the truth is, we are only geared to generally follow mass opinion if it's rubber stamped as an official opinion where mainstream is concerned. To think that a man can talk to his invisible friend or a woman could talk to her invisible friend and yet be ridiculed to the point of frenzy in some cases, down to actually being sectioned. Basically classed as absolute nutcases and yet a crowd can walk into a building and talk to their invisible god and be looked upon as pillars of society. Strange world isn't it? "I'm only as dumb as religious people" isn't much of a defence tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Just now, Park Life said: What would be the point about lying about the nature of the earth? I don't profess to know all the answers but how about giving us the illusion that we cannot explore any more of it due to us being told it's a ball that is generally mapped out, with only supposed Antarctica and the north pole being a bridge too far in many cases for deeper penetration by human. What's to say that there isn't much more of this Earth to explore and maybe attached similar Earth like cells. Of course it appears crazy and complete nuts for anyone to even think of, yet how do we really know? Why do we believe oceans can adhere to a spinning ball when our senses clearly show us the complete opposite? We can be made to believe anything at all if there is some kind of official stamp attached to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 1 minute ago, ewerk said: It's to keep up this charade about gravity. Obviously. And yet nobody knows what gravity is as a force. We get told about experiments that somehow prove gravity is real, like the Cavendish experiment. It proves absolutely nothing about gravity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15518 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Just now, Meenzer said: It's ok I'll be away soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, wolfy said: And yet nobody knows what gravity is as a force. We get told about experiments that somehow prove gravity is real, like the Cavendish experiment. It proves absolutely nothing about gravity. The difference is scientism is our current best estimate, with the information available. It constantly challenges itself to find better answers. Doesn't mean some people aren't religious about science. Edited May 15, 2017 by adios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, wolfy said: And yet nobody knows what gravity is as a force. We get told about experiments that somehow prove gravity is real, like the Cavendish experiment. It proves absolutely nothing about gravity. I can go with discussions about Gravity with reg to electromagnetic force and mass and how information is exchanged between forces no problem. But living inside a cell? I know where this is coming from and I know it is pure distraction. We're all made of stardust Wolfie we can't be inside anything. Northrop Grumman have been doing research by applying a charge to surfaces with reg to stealth and as a by product they found that the craft is a tiny bit 'lighter'. The charge was interfering with how gravity works. Edited May 15, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Just now, adios said: The difference is :quote: scientism :quote: is our current best estimate, with the information available. It constantly challenges itself to find better answers. Doesn't mean some people aren't religious about science. I agree. Each person can obviously adhere to whatever fits their belief system. Naturally the current belief system for the masses is gravity working on a spinning globe in a space vacuum. We get told this because we do not observe any of it and our basic human senses/sensors do not feel what we are coaxed into accepting. It is basically a religion among religions, disguised as science, as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 You've defo missed the crux of my argument like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Park Life said: I can go with discussions about Gravity with reg to electromagnetic force and mass and how information is exchanged between forces no problem. But living inside a cell? I know where this is coming from and I know it is pure distraction. We're all made of stardust Wolfie we can't be inside anything. Northrop Grumman have been doing research by applying a charge to surfaces with reg to stealth and as a by product they found that the craft is a tiny bit 'lighter'. The charge was interfering with how gravity works. And you are 100% entitled to think that way. You're also entitled to believe I'm talking nonsense. I can't ask you to alter your thoughts, just as I won't alter mine, unless I believe there's better theories to what I adhere to. It's the same as I have no right to tell people there is no god. It's a faith system with everything we cannot physically prove, with anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, adios said: You've defo missed the crux of my argument like. Sorry about that. What is it you are referring to in particular? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, wolfy said: And you are 100% entitled to think that way. You're also entitled to believe I'm talking nonsense. I can't ask you to alter your thoughts, just as I won't alter mine, unless I believe there's better theories to what I adhere to. It's the same as I have no right to tell people there is no god. It's a faith system with everything we cannot physically prove, with anything. Is this cell or yours surrounded by a vacuum? Or is it connected to another 'cell'. Are these cells in space? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, wolfy said: Sorry about that. What is it you are referring to in particular? More to the point, where do you stand on the transgenda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Park Life said: Is this cell or yours surrounded by a vacuum? Or is it connected to another 'cell'. Are these cells in space? You have to remember that I'm only hypothesising. I obviously can't arrogantly state what I'm saying is a truth, but it is my thoughts based on how I see things panning out in nature. And yes, in my thoughts, all cells are connected. As far as a vacuum is concerned; it's not quite as straight-forward as just being a so called vacuum in terms of absence of all matter, because absence of all matter means just that. Let's call it extreme low pressure compared to the pressure we survive under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 1 minute ago, adios said: More to the point, where do you stand on the transgenda? I think they are on par with the ford transit for capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wolfy 12 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Be back later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, wolfy said: You have to remember that I'm only hypothesising. I obviously can't arrogantly state what I'm saying is a truth, but it is my thoughts based on how I see things panning out in nature. And yes, in my thoughts, all cells are connected. As far as a vacuum is concerned; it's not quite as straight-forward as just being a so called vacuum in terms of absence of all matter, because absence of all matter means just that. Let's call it extreme low pressure compared to the pressure we survive under. I know this discussion has been going on Godlike and ATS. They are both filled with shills and people hell bent of distracting proper discussions with quasi-mystical and cod Gaia whimsy. I don't mean you. If there was a pressure difference outside the 'cell' would expand continually like a balloon does when you blow it up. As the pressure outside the balloon is lower than inside it. So although I do personally believe in a connected universe (light/electromagnetism/attraction) I don't think we need a quasi-biological explanation to cover what is already connected by various types of trace energy. However thinking differently is never a bad thing. I positively encourage it. Edited May 15, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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