Christmas Tree 4725 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 4 hours ago, Happy Face said: Difference is, all the polls were close in those cases and the results swung to the right because 1. people are ashamed to admit they vote out of self interest 2. people are ashamed to admit they vote out of hatred of 'the other'. 3. Left leaning young people respond to polls but don't go to cast a vote. There's no precedent at all for what you predict. Im ever the optimist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Im ever the optimist. If we lived in a just society I've had some optimism. Unfortunately we live in a world where Shirley Chisolm (1st US black female member of Congress) is on stamps, in the National Women's Hall of Fame and has a Presidential Medal of Freedom, but Diane Abbott (1st UK black female member of Parliament) is on the sick having been hounded out of her position by the press because she didn't know a number off the top of her head and couldn't recall which of 127 recommendations from an 8 month old report had been implemented or not.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 2 hours ago, ewerk said: @Christmas Tree Will you be taking a quick snap of your ballot to show us that you're a man of your word? Its illegal. just voted. Polling station empty. Had a few people in the taxi this morning who would probably benefit most from Labour and all of them are not voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Monkeys Fist said: beside a duck pizza for proof. I did consider taking a cherry tomato along but then read it was illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Its illegal. It's not, just discouraged. You could've taken a sneaky one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, Happy Face said: If we lived in a just society I've had some optimism. Unfortunately we live in a world where Shirley Chisolm (1st US black female member of Congress) is on stamps, in the National Women's Hall of Fame and has a Presidential Medal of Freedom, but Diane Abbott (1st UK black female member of Parliament) is on the sick having been hounded out of her position by the press because she didn't know a number off the top of her head and couldn't recall which of 127 recommendations from an 8 month old report had been implemented or not.. Aye, I'm not a fan of hers by any means but the news media need to have a word with themselves about their interview techniques. Seems to be a competition on as to who can make a name for themselves tripping a politician up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5220 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Its illegal. just voted. Polling station empty. Had a few people in the taxi this morning who would probably benefit most from Labour and all of them are not voting. Hard to say anything other than those people deserve everything they get, frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Happy Face said: If we lived in a just society I've had some optimism. Unfortunately we live in a world where Shirley Chisolm (1st US black female member of Congress) is on stamps, in the National Women's Hall of Fame and has a Presidential Medal of Freedom, but Diane Abbott (1st UK black female member of Parliament) is on the sick having been hounded out of her position by the press because she didn't know a number off the top of her head and couldn't recall which of 127 recommendations from an 8 month old report had been implemented or not.. What does her being the first black female elected to Parliament have to do with her current job performance? If she can't handle the OTT press scrutiny then she shouldn't be in front line politics. Edit: And it wasn't because she didn't know a number, it was because she came across as a bumbling idiot in her attempt to cover up the fact that she didn't know the numbers. Edited June 8, 2017 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 10 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Its illegal. So is bong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, ewerk said: It's not, just discouraged. You could've taken a sneaky one. It's apparently illegal to influence somebody to publish their vote. I'm looking at you, crim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, ewerk said: What does her being the first black female elected to Parliament have to do with her current job performance? If she can't handled the OTT press scrutiny then she shouldn't be in front line politics. Edit: And it wasn't because she didn't know a number, it was because she came across as a bumbling idiot in her attempt to cover up the fact that she didn't know the numbers. Has this white man had an iota of that pressure since this bumbling gaffe... on a MUCH more straightforward number. Or this white man Understand she's on the front bench, but it's WAY out of proportion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 That's a single figure. He isn't launching a major policy initiative. He immediately acknowledged that he didn't know the figure and that he should have done. If Abbott had straight up said that her figures were wrong it wouldn't have been half as bad as her cringeworthy attempts to keep guessing the figures. That's what has attracted the criticism. It has fuck all to do with race. And I had barely heard it mentioned since the days following the interview. I must've missed this campaign of persecution that you're alluding to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 95% of my persistence with this is that it winds you up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 And to that end you've been very successful. Lost any followers since starting the political stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, ewerk said: And to that end you've been very successful. Lost any followers since starting the political stuff? About a hundred. Doubt I've changed anyone's vote either. It's not like Twitter is capable of that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5220 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Happy Face said: About a hundred. Doubt I've changed anyone's vote either. It's not like Twitter is capable of that. Noble and principled stance though. Not that you'd think such things were virtues at all given the sorts of things being said these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15525 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Dude, he just accused you of virtue signalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just now, Meenzer said: Dude, he just accused you of virtue signalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5220 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Meenzer said: Dude, he just accused you of virtue signalling. Having a virtue is different to signalling it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Imagine (hope) most of the unfollows are from Rangers fans rather than Newcastle fans. Been surprised how few want to argue. I know people like to stay in their bubbles and only hear ideas that confirm their beliefs, but I expected more confrontation than the one or 2 I've had defending Tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Had to queue to get into my local polling station ... at 10.45am. Ramsokajammed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 16 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Had to queue to get into my local polling station ... at 10.45am. Ramsokajammed Momentum stronghold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5220 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Momentum stronghold? Momentum is supposedly out in all the marginals today. 8000 of them harassing people to vote Not sure how successful it'll be, but I suppose it's worth a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15525 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 No tellers and no queue at my polling station, just one old lady repeatedly asking the people behind the desk if she was supposed to vote for one candidate or several. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 I'm so excited for tonight. Absolutely love election night. Even pencilled in a day off for tomorrow if needed. The only really bad result for my enjoyment will be a small Tory majority. Labour win and I can feel good about my vote whilst spending the next 5 years peering from behind a cushion. Thumping Tory majority then "my" teams won and I can tell myself I got too caught up in the romance of hard left idealism and the world is as it was always going to be. Then I can look forward to Mays vicious reshuffle. Small majority and it's what could have been if only the youth got out and a lame duck PM. Only tough decision is whether to go with wine or wheat beer and what to have for supper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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