NJS 4369 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 It will be interesting to see what basis ukip campaign on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5170 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I suspect they'll have to go for Labour - they can't go for the Tories. I see them as the working class vote sucking wing of the Tories now. The only way that helps us is that it might split the Brexiters between Tory and UKIP in seats where we need Labour to win. The downside is that UKIP might pick up some seats - and that if they do, May might have to compromise with them to form a government. Which means effectively increasing the size of her 'loony fringe' within the Tory party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15384 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 "No one knows anything" http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/04/19/no-one-knows-anything-what-to-do-ifwhen-mrs-may-wins-todays-vote/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5170 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Interesting. Rather grim outlook for Labour there I'd say, although entirely possible. All the more need for a union IMO, to stop the 15% swing seats from being vulnerable to non-Tory parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Let me guess you read things in the press and the internets and then you come in here all worried. Pfft.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5170 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Um, I think there's plenty of reason to worry - although I've said a few times that I can see a positive outcome here if the centre left parties throw in together. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/19/coalition-collaboration-tactical-voting-stop-hard-brexit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 The Tories plan all along was to wait after the boundary changes and then run amok. WHAT has changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5170 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 To be fair, you're right. May calling this election now is actually giving hope where there was none, rather than taking something new away. That said, if/when they win, it'll be the start of a new Tory era. I wonder how easy it'll be to become Scottish when they leave. I hope they make it easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15384 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 The Tories plan all along was to wait after the boundary changes and then run amok. WHAT has changed? Easy way to buy an extra two years instead of having to have a GE in the middle of the immediate post-Brexit carnage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5170 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) Osborne is gone. Good riddance. EDIT - although he probably would be a moderate in the whole Brexit issue ffs. Edited April 19, 2017 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) All that's happened is that the pot noodle nation took down the Globalists who as it goes for the briefest of moments weren't paying attention....So focused they were on the coming war with Eurasia. Now what we're required to believe is that a stronger Tory mandate will deliver a softer Brexit because of the inner dynamic of the Tory Party. Yet at the same time we are required to believe that wranglings in Parliament and light sleepers in the House of Lords were going to hold up a 'proper' Brexit. Neither of the above posits are true are they? Edited April 19, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15384 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 See, that's what I've been saying all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5170 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Have to say you've lost me there Parky, what exactly do you think is going to happen then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5170 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I see, so you don't have a clue then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) I believe two conflicting ideas at the same time and I'm happy with it. Edited April 19, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5170 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 ... I'm tempted to say you're being entirely consistent with your usual approach on that basis I can see it being the former, but ultimately this could go horribly wrong for May in any number of ways. Were the right wingers in her party really that much of a threat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) The EU is a Globalists project so therefore I am instinctively against it. Yet at the same time I want to stay in it. You see how they do it. Edited April 19, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30235 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 May's hammering of Corbyn at every opportunity was embarrassing by the end but I'm sure it'll play well on the 6 o'clock news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5170 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 A Tory MP has just asked Tim Farron if he thinks homosexuality is a sin. Knives well and truly out for the election here. I can't believe we let these immature fuckwits run the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30235 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 He was asked the question on Channel 4 last night and refused to answer it. But fair play to him for sticking to his principles and refusing to give the public the easy answers that they want to hear, the massive homophobic twat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5170 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 He's just answered it in parliament He doesn't think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30235 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Now he's just playing to the crowd, the massive hypocritical homophobic twat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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