ewerk 30616 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Still the only one on here to predict the election outcome. Show some goddamn respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted June 12, 2017 Author Share Posted June 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, ewerk said: Still the only one on here to predict the election outcome. Show some goddamn respect. Just saying everyone is wrong regardless of their view is not making a prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11387 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2017/jun/12/david-squires-on-theresa-mays-deal-with-the-dup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Yvette Cooper has claimed the same thing as ewerk. That in the national interest all parties should come together. Don't think it's a good idea for Labour though. Plus if they did do it, surely we could claim often and repeatedly that they're weak as piss now. Assuming there is no happy outcome to Brexit, which there isnt, we may as well let the Tories die on that sword themselves. No point in anyone else being tainted by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Yvette Cooper has claimed the same thing as ewerk. That in the national interest all parties should come together. Don't think it's a good idea for Labour though. Plus if they did do it, surely we could claim often and repeatedly that they're weak as piss now. Assuming there is no happy outcome to Brexit, which there isnt, we may as well let the Tories die on that sword themselves. No point in anyone else being tainted by it. Seem to be lots of reaching out today from Tory MP's. Labour could look very poor if they ignore, particularly as their plans are pretty similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 What is in the party political interest might not be in the national interest. Difficult/interesting decisions ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Have now thought about this some. If there's a cross party deal on it, it takes Brexit out of the political one upmanship equation. Now, the Tories have been relying on Brexit completely in order to win votes in an anti-austerity time. Taking that out and making it a cross party project means they have to be judged on their non-brexit merits. No reason for Brexiters to vote for them, in theory. So Labour could still come out of this with a win even if they do pitch in on the project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 16 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Have now thought about this some. If there's a cross party deal on it, it takes Brexit out of the political one upmanship equation. Now, the Tories have been relying on Brexit completely in order to win votes in an anti-austerity time. Taking that out and making it a cross party project means they have to be judged on their non-brexit merits. No reason for Brexiters to vote for them, in theory. So Labour could still come out of this with a win even if they do pitch in on the project. give over, Austerity is getting binned pronto. Probably copying the Labour manifesto onto goat skin as we speak. This will turn out as one of those evil coalitions where they take the credit if it goes well and them blame Labour when it turns to shit. Think Labour are going to struggle to stay out of the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: give over, Austerity is getting binned pronto. Probably copying the Labour manifesto onto goat skin as we speak. This will turn out as one of those evil coalitions where they take the credit if it goes well and them blame Labour when it turns to shit. Think Labour are going to struggle to stay out of the process. If the Tories bin austerity I'm taking that as a fucking win, because it's the great evil of our time. They won't though because the entire ideological basis of their party is the cutting back of the state. If they stop doing that, they may as fucking well be Labour. Edited June 12, 2017 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44888 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Another MP leaving the committee room said: “She was very concerned about people who have lost their seats. The party is going to help them, some of them are in dire financial situations." You couldn't make these cunts up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza 105 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Another MP leaving the committee room said: “She was very concerned about people who have lost their seats. The party is going to help them, some of them are in dire financial situations." You couldn't make these cunts up. They'll be alright, plenty of food banks around these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 They can just retrain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 What's the point in giving them money if they're only going to waste it on quinoa and top hats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Class this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17274 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/what-connects-brexit-the-dup-dark-money-and-a-saudi-prince-1.3083586?mode=amp I don't know what to say about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Yeah, saw that. If nothing else, it doesn't help make them look any more trustworthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 There's a rabbit off there like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 That comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 No idea how reliable the Express is generally, but this is pretty huge if true - Sinn Fein flying to London to go through Westminster induction... possibly to take seats? You can sort of see why they would what with May 'taking a side'. http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/816361/theresa-may-queen-jeremy-corbyn-sinn-fein-gerry-adams-arlene-foster-dup-westminster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 It's a non-story. They always take offices in Westminster. It means that they can claim expenses and funding without having to show up to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 53 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/what-connects-brexit-the-dup-dark-money-and-a-saudi-prince-1.3083586?mode=amp I don't know what to say about this Old news. But given that it involved NI naturally no one in GB gave a fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Just now, ewerk said: It's a non-story. They always take offices in Westminster. It means that they can claim expenses and funding without having to show up to work. Ah, ok then. I did think it would be remarkable that it wasn't front page news everywhere else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7030 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 I think he's often done well in PMQs against May but the difference now is that it'll get a lot more coverage and interest instead of being largely ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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