Christmas Tree 4725 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 To sum up, The Tory party is at the fag end of talent. They have no one to match Corbyns campaign persona and Boris I think, while jovial, has worn thin with most voters. That won't stop all the plotting for her job which in turn will spread a cancer of deceit and desperation within the party. In the coming weeks May will be bent over a desk in Brussels and sent on her way home with laughter ringing in her ears. At the same time she will be humiliated at PMQ's, destroyed in the press and no doubt subject to very harmful finger pointing from the fallout of the terror attacks. Police federations, NHS staff, etc will all raise the volume of descent and the Tories will go into panic mode. She'll get the heave ho in less than 3 weeks and the fag ends will spend several indulgent weeks selecting a new leader. This won't change anything, the EU will play hardball (blaming the Tories) and a general election will be called. Corbyn will this time romp home. Given the rise of the youth and the a lot of leave voters appeased by the money tree, It would not surprise me to see Labour going into that election offering to reverse Brexit. Labour will then bankrupt the country and we'll be back to austerity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Not for 5 years though, how old is he?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Christmas Tree said: Labour will then bankrupt the country and we'll be back to austerity. Consistent to a fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Might just be tiredness, but I'm finding it difficult to really become enthused about all of this in the end. The Tories will hang on with everything they've got in my opinion, and May certainly won't be around if they go back to the electorate again. Labour need to start working immediately on improving their campaigning and setting things in motion to capture the necessary votes to throw them back next time. Personally, I would target Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 There is just no way the Tories will go back to the electorate against a resurgent Corbyn. They have far, far too much to lose. It's not a standard Labour party they're facing with Corbyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42458 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Meenzer said: Consistent to a fault. Is this a voice of descent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20153 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Osborne absolutely loving this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11387 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Nice piece on the fall of dacre https://www.byline.com/column/68/article/1721 one of the best things to come out of this was how young people were galvanised and hopefully that means the end of the mail editor thinking he's running the country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17277 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Rayvin said: Osborne absolutely loving this. Hate to say it he was charming,interesting and engaging on itv last night. The Tory cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, Rayvin said: There is just no way the Tories will go back to the electorate against a resurgent Corbyn. They have far, far too much to lose. It's not a standard Labour party they're facing with Corbyn. They won't have a choice. They still don't have a mandate or much of a working majority. And we're looking a second unelected leader year in 18 months who will also struggle with a lack of legitimacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said: They won't have a choice. They still don't have a mandate or much of a working majority. And we're looking a second unelected leader year in 18 months who will also struggle with a lack of legitimacy. Man I hope you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Nice piece on the fall of dacre https://www.byline.com/column/68/article/1721 one of the best things to come out of this was how young people were galvanised and hopefully that means the end of the mail editor thinking he's running the country I hate to say it mate, but the same trend that will put paid to Dacre will effect the press on the whole - and indeed is doing so. Even the left wing outlets like the Guardian are struggling now. So yes, it's good for breaking the strangehold that the media have of information, and it may finally smite the Heil, but we'll lose some decent sources along the way too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Sorry, making predictions again. I need to stop that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, Rayvin said: I hate to say it mate, but the same trend that will put paid to Dacre will effect the press on the whole - and indeed is doing so. Even the left wing outlets like the Guardian are struggling now. So yes, it's good for breaking the strangehold that the media have of information, and it may finally smite the Heil, but we'll lose some decent sources along the way too. You don't need to tell me I work in a dying industry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, Dr Gloom said: You don't need to tell me I work in a dying industry I mean, frankly, we're all working in dying industries. That's one of the great challenges of the modern age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20153 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I mean, frankly, we're all working in dying industries. That's one of the great challenges of the modern age If my industry dies, we are all fucked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I knew some pedant working in something like the food or energy industries would pick me up one that What do you do again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20153 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 construction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 On the same theme, here's a striking piece in the ft about how labour took a leaf out of the trump campaign, targeting the disenfranchised directly and winning the social media battle https://amp.ft.com/content/d1c854f0-4cea-11e7-a3f4-c742b9791d43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I can't imagine we'll hear anyone on the Tory side say "no deal is better than a bad deal again anytime all " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 That arsehole Farage will be banging on and on about Brexit even more now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Alex said: That arsehole Farage will be banging on and on about Brexit even more now Farage is becoming something of a cult hero to the Alt-Right, which I find fascinating because the guy is an intellectual pygmy (which is important to the Alt-Right because they consider themselves to be hyper-rational, free thinkers. Like Wolfy). So yes, he's going to come back and, I expect, paint himself as some sort of Trump figure. Edited June 9, 2017 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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