Ayatollah Hermione 13870 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 16 minutes ago, Meenzer said: Surely people can see that FPTP has run its course now. Though of course by definition you're never going to see much will to change it from the party in power. Just been thinking about that, funnily enough. Trying to follow every potential outcome this morning is an absolute shit show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 May is in cloud cuckoo land if she thinks this new coalition with the DUP is lasting 5 years like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, Dr Gloom said: May is in cloud cuckoo land if she thinks this new coalition with the DUP is lasting 5 years like I think it will, based on the fact that I thought the Tory/Lib Dem alliance wouldn't last and it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Sounds like Kensington is going to Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I think it will, based on the fact that I thought the Tory/Lib Dem alliance wouldn't last and it did. Is the govt majority something like 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17277 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I think it will, based on the fact that I thought the Tory/Lib Dem alliance wouldn't last and it did. I think the requirements of the Brexit negotiations will kill it. Another GE before the end of the year. Jezza will have to firm up his Brexit policy which could be trouble. He just didn't mention it in his campaign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Does Theresa May actually know she didn't win the election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42458 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, Meenzer said: Does Theresa May actually know she didn't win the election? No. Bless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I think it will, based on the fact that I thought the Tory/Lib Dem alliance wouldn't last and it did. I've already broken my pledge not to make any predictions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Meenzer said: Does Theresa May actually know she didn't win the election? No reference at all in her speech to the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20153 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I think May has just read out the wrong speech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Read that the DUP will demand more resources for Northern Ireland. Yep, more resources for them whilst leaving the rest of us in austerity. Silly bastards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20153 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: Is the govt majority something like 2? A couple of deaths or a few brave Tories like Ken Clarke could easily topple this shitpile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 19 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: May is in cloud cuckoo land if she thinks this new coalition with the DUP is lasting 5 years like Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20153 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rayvin 5223 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 The thing is, if a big deal isn't made of it, she'll just coast on through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I don't think there's much danger of a big deal not being made of it. Perhaps the best thing for Labour at present though is that she carries on like she's won. I think her arrogance cost her a majority and hopefully it'll be her job next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4386 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 32 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: May is in cloud cuckoo land if she thinks this new coalition with the DUP is lasting 5 years like In her mind it only has to last till the boundary changes. Thing is it's going to be so shit I don't think that will guarantee a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 The only way she can survive for any amount of time that isn't humiliating is if she completely changes her approach on Brexit. Her vision of a hard Brexit, leaving the customs union and single market, has been rejected by the British people- that's clear. These were choices she made by the way, they weren't ordained. Neither of those options were on the Brexit referendum ballot. If she's genuinely serious about going ahead with starting Brexit negotiations in 9 days or whatever she's going to have to tear up herself plan and go for something far more pragmatic. If this election was a second EU referendum in all but name, the country has voted for soft Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, Alex said: I don't think there's much danger of a big deal not being made of it. Perhaps the best thing for Labour at present though is that she carries on like she's won. I think her arrogance cost her a majority and hopefully it'll be her job next. Aye, I think Corbyn's quiet and principled thing has been a boon in the last few weeks in particular, and that ought to continue. He should set some of the lower-status attack dogs on May though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Jesus. https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/adam-ramsay/so-who-are-dup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Alex said: I don't think there's much danger of a big deal not being made of it. Perhaps the best thing for Labour at present though is that she carries on like she's won. I think her arrogance cost her a majority and hopefully it'll be her job next. It is probably in corbyn's interest, if not the national interest, for her to cling to power and stumble along, further destroying her party's credibility, for as long as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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