2017 GE 1

[ewerk 29798]

What did you make of that performance?

[Christmas Tree 4534]

8 minutes ago, ewerk said:

What did you make of that performance?

 

A lot better than I was expecting given today's "clarification". After a few days on the ropes she was there for the taking and I thought Neil was far too hands off early on. (Not his usual style on daily politics).

 

She basically (while squirming around awkward issues), managed to get the sounbites across she wanted, many times.

 

Come the end of the week when the other four have be crucified by him, her performance will be long forgotten.

 

That said, these sort of interviews are definitely outside her comfort zone. 

[ewerk 29798]

You think that managing to repeat sound bites while refusing to give any substantial answers and telling downright lies about her opponent makes a successful interview? 

[Meenzer 15197]

It's worked well for her so far.

[Christmas Tree 4534]

6 minutes ago, ewerk said:

You think that managing to repeat sound bites while refusing to give any substantial answers and telling downright lies about her opponent makes a successful interview? 

 

I said better than I expected.

[ewerk 29798]

You really mustn't think highly of her. Where does she rank in the list of PMs of your lifetime?

[Dr Gloom 21564]

2 hours ago, Rayvin said:

 

Just watched park's earlier video of May as well as ewerk's.

 

Again, pathetic. To launch a manifesto and then backtrack immediately shows us exactly how the EU negotiation will go. It'll be a shambles with May caught between a demanding public and an intransigent EU.

 

It's all arid flange waving innit. The tough negotiation face she's putting on to appease Paul dacre will soon shift once she's won a bigger majority and the softer vision of brexit I suspect she has always wanted (and Tory donors demand) will emerge.

[ewerk 29798]

10 hours ago, Christmas Tree said:

 

I said better than I expected.

 

 

 

 

Again, just how low were your expectations?

[NJS 4281]

Also the notion that she goes around the country talking to people is another fucking lie. 

[ewerk 29798]

Well she does tbf. Just a small tightly controlled group of sycophants. 

[Monkeys Fist 41508]

11 hours ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

It's all arid flange waving innit. 

 

[Dr Gloom 21564]

2 hours ago, NJS said:

Also the notion that she goes around the country talking to people is another fucking lie. 

 

She's actively avoided it during this campaign - no surprise given how poor she is at dealing even with pre-prepared questions 

[Park Life 71]

Car crash. Look at the mad eyes. It's basically the female David Moyes.

 

 

Edited May 23, 2017 by Park Life

[Alex 34279]

People have talked about Corbyn a lot over the past couple of years but he looks much more confident and professional than May at present. He's a far better orator and he doesn't duck questions. It really feels like she's beginning to be unveiled as the fraud a lot of us on here thought her to be. I'm not exactly expecting her to lose the election or anything but she looks more shambolic with each interview / public appearance. I think she reveals a wider problem at Westminster, i.e. a dearth of decent politicians.

[Park Life 71]

1 minute ago, Alex said:

People have talked about Corbyn a lot over the past couple of years but he looks much more confident and professional than May at present. He's a far better orator and he doesn't duck questions. It really feels like she's beginning to be unveiled as the fraud a lot of us on here thought her to be. I'm not exactly expecting her to lose the election or anything but she looks more shambolic with each interview / public appearance. I think she reveals a wider problem at Westminster, i.e. a dearth of decent politicians.

Elephants graveyard innit.

[Happy Face 29]

 

[Alex 34279]

She looks like she's just been dug up as well

[Park Life 71]

David Moyes

[Renton 20617]

8 minutes ago, Alex said:

People have talked about Corbyn a lot over the past couple of years but he looks much more confident and professional than May at present. He's a far better orator and he doesn't duck questions. It really feels like she's beginning to be unveiled as the fraud a lot of us on here thought her to be. I'm not exactly expecting her to lose the election or anything but she looks more shambolic with each interview / public appearance. I think she reveals a wider problem at Westminster, i.e. a dearth of decent politicians.

Agreed.

 

Have to say recently Corbyn has impressed me in a positive way sand May the opposite. Still think the damage was done with Corbyn over his ambivalent Brexit approach and contradictory trident message. May is an embarrassment now though. 

 

[Happy Face 29]

Labour vote share in Wales was 37% in 2015.

 

Yesterday Yougov put them at 44%.

 

Tory 34% (from 27%)

[ewerk 29798]

Aye but the Welsh voted out so you know they can't be trusted.

[Rayvin 5131]

31 minutes ago, Renton said:

Agreed.

 

Have to say recently Corbyn has impressed me in a positive way sand May the opposite. Still think the damage was done with Corbyn over his ambivalent Brexit approach and contradictory trident message. May is an embarrassment now though. 

 

 

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, the damage was done to Corbyn by the overwhelmingly negative media reaction to him even before Brexit was on the horizon. The PLP were lining up to take shots at him well before the referendum.

 

He's done nothing in this campaign that has surprised me in terms of how he comes across because I've spent the past two years listening to him talk, rather than listening to what people are saying he said.

 

As you say though, none of this changes the fact that May, despite being utterly incompetent - something that was clear when she was home secretary let alone Prime Minister - is going to win. What now terrifies me is that previously I could just about believe that my views on her were being coloured by tribalism. That she was probably more competent than I gave her credit for. Now, she actually seems to be more or less as bad as I thought she was. Possibly even worse? What chance do we stand in the Brexit negotiations with this pack of inept opportunistic fucks in charge?

[Park Life 71]

2 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

 

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, the damage was done to Corbyn by the overwhelmingly negative media reaction to him even before Brexit was on the horizon. The PLP were lining up to take shots at him well before the referendum.

 

He's done nothing in this campaign that has surprised me in terms of how he comes across because I've spent the past two years listening to him talk, rather than listening to what people are saying he said.

 

As you say though, none of this changes the fact that May, despite being utterly incompetent - something that was clear when she was home secretary let alone Prime Minister - is going to win. What now terrifies me is that previously I could just about believe that my views on her were being coloured by tribalism. That she was probably more competent than I gave her credit for. Now, she actually seems to be more or less as bad as I thought she was. Possibly even worse? What chance do we stand in the Brexit negotiations with this pack of inept opportunistic fucks in charge?

You are the font of all knowledge.

[Rayvin 5131]

Listening to what someone says, as opposed to how the media report what he says, remains highly controversial in this day and age

 

Obviously though, he's continues to be a disappointment in terms of leading the party in a general sense. Fortunately that doesn't seem to be under particular scrutiny at the moment.

 

As for May, literally every poster on here save CT could see her for what she was.

[Renton 20617]

13 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

 

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, the damage was done to Corbyn by the overwhelmingly negative media reaction to him even before Brexit was on the horizon. The PLP were lining up to take shots at him well before the referendum.

 

He's done nothing in this campaign that has surprised me in terms of how he comes across because I've spent the past two years listening to him talk, rather than listening to what people are saying he said.

 

As you say though, none of this changes the fact that May, despite being utterly incompetent - something that was clear when she was home secretary let alone Prime Minister - is going to win. What now terrifies me is that previously I could just about believe that my views on her were being coloured by tribalism. That she was probably more competent than I gave her credit for. Now, she actually seems to be more or less as bad as I thought she was. Possibly even worse? What chance do we stand in the Brexit negotiations with this pack of inept opportunistic fucks in charge?

I've followed Corbyn too and imo his performance has genuinely improved. The media haven't changed so what else could it be? He has been shambolic over Brexit and Trident though. May's own awful performances have been a needed distraction for him. Damage limitation is the name of the game now, I just hope if,when he loses he will make way for a credible candidate.