Christmas Tree 4725 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Rayvin said: The Tories are going to eviscerate them through the media and through horrifying TV appearances where May pretends she knows how to smile. People simply won't care how well costed the policies are, or how much they'll help. Labour winning at this point would have to go down as one of the most improbable election victories of all time. I get that you're trying to make this more interesting but seriously, the landscape at the moment is the political equivalent of the SPL with the Tories as Celtic. This is one of those manifestos where they think they have zero chance of winning so chuck in all the goodies. honestly, if the likes of the IFS and others don't destroy the figures AND labour get bullish about it, I think they'll do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20129 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Waaaahhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy CT CT CT CT CT is back! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: This is one of those manifestos where they think they have zero chance of winning so chuck in all the goodies. honestly, if the likes of the IFS and others don't destroy the figures AND labour get bullish about it, I think they'll do well. Gideon ran up the public debt higher than anybody ever. So less of this Tories managing the books lark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Political genius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Nothing will change in the UK till there is a long term commitment to reviving manufacturing. Producing goods for export is the key to any mixed economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Absolue cast iron vote winner from the Lib Dems - a pledge to take in an extra 50k refugees: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/11/tim-farron-lib-dems-pledge-uk-take-50000-more-syrian-refugees Presumably Farron thinks that doing this will expose Labour (who surely can't turn around and agree to match this given the current political climate) and drive more lefties to his side. But ffs at £4.3bn it just sounds woefully out of touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Taking in refugees a vote winner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Park Life said: Taking in refugees a vote winner? I suspect, given the sentences after the link, that our Rayvin is being sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I was laughing at the Lib Dems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 For the avoidance of doubt, not even I think that policy makes sense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Lib dems have proposed paying for it with a tax on cute gifs of puppies and kittens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Thought it was a tax on gays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Aka the sin tax 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 31 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Aka the sin tax Tbf there should be eco taxes from all sides. It's probably the one tax that isn't a sure vote loser as it can be argued for easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 The myth tax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Startingly, Labour's manifesto appears to be getting people excited... Left wing populism finally on offer, it seems. This is what I hoped Corbyn would give us. Makes defeat no less inevitable, but the fact that these policies are even being floated causes an expansion of the discourse. The Tories will cling to their narrative about bankrupting the country, and Labour will stick to supporting the people. Exactly how it should be, for both sides. No more Labour pandering to the Tory line, at least for this election. A straight fight between the best interests of the people, and the propaganda that keeps them from it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Biggest state intervention in decades the are saying. Good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) Tories scoff at the left wing policies that they say can't work, they say it'll take us back to the bad old days of 70s. But mail, power, rail, tuition fees etc were all privatised in the 90s and 2000s They are the ones thayt want to go back to the 70s and a time when we weren't part of the common market. Again, bizaro stuff. Tories have shot themselves in the foot with the energy cap. An admission that privatising the energy companies is bad for consumers and government intervention is a must. Goes back on their ideaology completely. EDIT: But aye, as Rayvin says, they'll still win because Corbyn is beardy. Edited May 11, 2017 by Happy Face 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) Not forgetting the Tories have intervened repeatedly in the Energy utilities, banks and rail to save failing private scenarios. The Tories are in a right old situation knowing that they do that the Globalists don't want the UK leaving the EU. Expect much magic and portents in the coming weeks. Edited May 11, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Listening to Barry Gardiner (Labour MP), who I quite like, he seems extremely confident that the costings they have finalised today will definitely stack up. Never quite seen him this excited. I really think they've played a blinder here. Expect the polls to swing next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 There is something refreshing about a counter argument to austerity. Shame it wasn't made in the last election 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 46 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Listening to Barry Gardiner (Labour MP), who I quite like, he seems extremely confident that the costings they have finalised today will definitely stack up. Never quite seen him this excited. I really think they've played a blinder here. Expect the polls to swing next week. Said they would turn 2 weeks ago. The Tories are caught in a pincer movement. Globalists on one side and Mad red lentil scoffing hippies on the other. Rogue Tories breaking cover yet to come. Interesting times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 41 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: There is something refreshing about a counter argument to austerity. Shame it wasn't made in the last election I've been saying that for years. Agreed but it doesn't actually help us make it a reality I suppose. Maybe if Brexit hadn't happened this would have been the moment and event that caught the country's mood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 30 minutes ago, Park Life said: Said they would turn 2 weeks ago. The Tories are caught in a pincer movement. Globalists on one side and Mad red lentil scoffing hippies on the other. Rogue Tories breaking cover yet to come. Interesting times. Can see what you're saying but it'd need to be one hell of a swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I'm with Parky. Something's afoot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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