Rayvin 5170 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 A quick scan and I agree in principle with everything position, complete renationalisation might be a step too far and I'm not sure exactly what the minimum wage should be. Unfortunately, you have to be able to play the game these days too. Didn't someone post a link on here about how the vast majority of people would vote Green purely on the issues? I've harped on about that last point endlessly. It was an independent article. I think the Tories finished 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5170 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 It will be interesting to see how many of those policies make it into their manifesto and whether, as promised, they are costed out. Also what their own policy is on Brexit. They claim to have costed it out. But also claim to do so by borrowing 500bn. The economics of that is sound (and less than the Tories have borrowed in 7 years which is 700bn) but not a vote winning headline for a populace not well versed in economics. No idea what their Brexit position is, and if even I don't know, it's not a good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21807 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Corbyn's wishy washy position on Brexit is one of the main reasons he's unelectable. Who the fuck knows what his real position is on it - he's barely mentioned it since May called the election. It's hard to imagine him leading the Brexit negotiations. And he's missed a massive opportunity to unify the remain vote by ruling out offering a referendum on the terms of exit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17074 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Fuck me, the beast of Boldon walks among us again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Can't remember MFs post bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30235 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Farage has decided to bow out with a 7 and 0 perfect record of Westminster defeats and won't be standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21807 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 In bet he's still all over broadcast media the next few weeks though, the snake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4717 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Not of interest to any others on here I know but my uncertainty of who to vote for is being whittled down bit by bit, Lib Dems candidate for Burnley is a right arsehole, got in after 2010 and managed to go full tory in the coalition.Can't believe he's managed to convince them to let him stand again considering the kicking he got in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5170 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Judging by that comment, you're not going to go Tory either. What do you mean he went full Tory anyway? As in agreed with them on everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4717 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Judging by that comment, you're not going to go Tory either. What do you mean he went full Tory anyway? As in agreed with them on everything? I do indeed, knowing the bloke he only stands as a Lib Dem because the conservatives have very little chance of being elected here. He campaigned with his party line pretty strongly in 2010, appealing to students loads (I was at uni at the time and he was regularly appearing on campus) before getting his seat and voting to raise tuition, lower benefits and prevent same sex marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15384 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 So far so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Didn't take long Fucking hell man. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/21/tory-election-manifesto-may-drop-2015-pledge-to-not-raise-taxes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Hung Parliament is 5 to 1 Same as you could get for leave before the brexit vote. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-u-k-snap-election-is-riskier-than-it-seems/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30235 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Already on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30235 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Theresa May has declared the Tories the party of lower taxes but has refused to rule out tax rises. How is it that we have such a shit media that most will ignore this hypocrisy/lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15384 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13789 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Taxi driver last night: "I've voted Labour all my life but I'd rather have May than Corbyn" Policies don't matter anymore, this is the reality for most voters IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 The Corbster promising 4 more bank holidays. It's a yes from me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30235 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 That doesn't necessarily equate to four extra days off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5170 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Taxi driver last night: "I've voted Labour all my life but I'd rather have May than Corbyn" Policies don't matter anymore, this is the reality for most voters IMO Did they ever? People are fucking stupid and arguably always have been. They get bought by media narratives and utter bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21252 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 (edited) Or they just think some of Corbyn's "policies" are moronic. Like the one where he has stated he would in no circumstances ever use our nuclear deterrent, for instance. This taxi driver and many traditional Labour voters can see him for the utter charlatan he is. Mocking people like that and calling them fucking stupid only reflects badly on you. Edited April 23, 2017 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30235 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Of course it's deserving of mocking. To go from being a lifelong Labour voter to a Tory just because of Corbyn is downright stupid. Not to mention that May herself is a hugely underwhelming leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21807 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Speaking of underwhelming, did anyone see Corbyn on Andrew Marr? Literally no attempt made to distinguish his brexit policies from May. Good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5170 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Or they just think some of Corbyn's "policies" are moronic. Like the one where he has stated he would in no circumstances ever use our nuclear deterrent, for instance. This taxi driver and many traditional Labour voters can see him for the utter charlatan he is. Mocking people like that and calling them fucking stupid only reflects badly on you. Whereas voting for the party that will actively work to make your life harder is the pinnacle of common sense. We aren't relevant enough for anyone to nuke these days ffs. On the other hand, we actually DO have falling standards of living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13789 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Or they just think some of Corbyn's "policies" are moronic. Like the one where he has stated he would in no circumstances ever use our nuclear deterrent, for instance. This taxi driver and many traditional Labour voters can see him for the utter charlatan he is. Mocking people like that and calling them fucking stupid only reflects badly on you. Yes, voting for a party that is the literal opposite of what you believe and seems to relish kicking our area to death is a much more rational solution. Can I join you on whatever planet you live on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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