Dr Gloom 22147 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 As expected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22147 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Bar gamez. How the fuck does Colback never get rested though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) Aye as you say aside from Gamez. No idea what's up with Yedlin, I'm hoping it's just to rest him as imo he's far and away been our best right back but the fact Anita is on the bench and he isn't is fairly worrying in that respect. Colback is an utter shambles but I suppose Rafa doesn't fancy playing Diame there so there's not really another option until Hayden gets back fit. Edited March 7, 2017 by Howay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4857 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I think moving diame back later in games has proven useful so he'll keep doing it. Â Yedlin I presume is just getting rest since he did play from the bench last time out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I think moving diame back later in games has proven useful so he'll keep doing it. Â Yedlin I presume is just getting rest since he did play from the bench last time out I hope so Andrew because as much as I love Rafa, and love watching the team win, watching Vernon Anita and Jack Colback attempt to play football is hard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Bar gamez. How the fuck does Colback never get rested though? Â Â Rested? Dropped more like. He's absolutely shite, but Rafa loves him. The teflon con. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22147 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Did mitro make the bench? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Been wondering when Gamez was going to be used. Surprised at Atsu not starting ahead of Gouffran. Surprised Perez starting ahead of Diame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Did mitro make the bench? Â Â No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33835 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 HF has left Dave wearing 100% of his underpants back to front in 75% as few words.Ohhh Fish is fucking magicHe wears a magic hat He tried to outstat HF, But he thought 'nah fuck that' He wants to stick with mitro With italics on all night Aaaand when he does his podcast he'll continue talking shite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10963 Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 I think I should get more starts at Newcastle. Doesn't matter how shit I am or that I've never shown any ability. Give me 20 starts and I might do OK. Â You have nothing to prove this is not true. Â The Trump approach to punditry. Â Let's go with the evidence. If he's not hitting the target and not scoring goals and hasn't in 2 years, even at a lower level, then he's not going to suddenly sprout wings and start flying. No matter how much you like his enthusiasm. Except that's not true and a misrepresentation. He scored 9 last year and 4 in a season where he's not played much. Â I have not called for him to start more games and in fact agreed that Murphy should start tonight. Â The only thing I've done throughout this thread is given evidence that supports my position that the criticism of Mitrovic is over the top and ignores the bigger picture; the style we play, the time he's getting, when in the game he's featuring, the make up of the team he plays with, his age, and so on. Â Your shot accuracy stat was designed to criticise Mitrovic, unfairly in my eyes. Murphy has better SA than every top striker in the league. Better than Gayle, should Rafa start Murphy ahead of Dwighty? No, of course not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10963 Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 Meagre return: 4 goals in the championship from a striker I thought would have treble that at this stage In 8 starts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22147 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 No. Damning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22147 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 In 8 starts? And how many games/minutes? Many more than Murphy, I think. Â Have you been watching him this season? Do you genuinely think he's done well? If so, you're a poor judge of a player and you're defending him because you want him to do well. Â He hasn't done well. He's been hugely disappointing and the fact Rafa doesn't fancy him says it all. He should be scoring goals for fun in this league. Even Perez has done better, and he's had a shit season too if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Howay lads, another big performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10963 Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) And how many games/minutes? Many more than Murphy, I think.  Have you been watching him this season? Do you genuinely think he's done well? If so, you're a poor judge of a player and you're defending him because you want him to do well.  He hasn't done well. He's been hugely disappointing and the fact Rafa doesn't fancy him says it all. He should be scoring goals for fun in this league. Even Perez has done better, and he's had a shit season too if you ask me. I think he's had some good games, some decent cameos, some anonymous substitute appearances and some stinkers.  I can see that he's raw, that he's lacking in assurance and that he's making mistakes more experienced players wouldn't.  He hasn't deserved to start ahead of Gayle, Murphy has taken his opportunities well and deserves the starts he's had. Rafa rotates most positions and Atsu's absences aren't evidence that Rafa's given up on him, same is true of Perez, Yedlin, Lazaar et al.  People seem to be confusing my defence of Mitrovic as some kind of blind faith in him, when really it's a call for calm and for people to stop overreacting  He's a good young player who's got a good future. I think he'd score more in a different system, but we shouldn't change our system to fit him. He'd score more if he got longer than 10 minute cameos, so that he could build experience to better take his opportunities when they come by.  You've seen yourself people claiming he can't make it in the Premier League despite him scoring in the Premier League. That he can't score in the Championship even though he has scored in the championship. It just seems backwards to me. Edited March 7, 2017 by The Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobos 298 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 7 nowt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14013 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Why no Yedlin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22147 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I think he's had some good games, some decent cameos, some anonymous substitute appearances and some stinkers.  I can see that he's raw, that he's lacking in assurance and that he's making mistakes more experienced players wouldn't.  He hasn't deserved to start ahead of Gayle, Murphy has taken his opportunities well and deserves the starts he's had. Rafa rotates most positions and Atsu's absences aren't evidence that Rafa's given up on him, same is true of Perez, Yedlin, Lazaar et al.  People seem to be confusing my defence of Mitrovic as some kind of blind faith in him, when really it's a call for calm and for people to stop overreacting  He's a good young player who's got a good future. I think he'd score more in a different system, but we shouldn't change our system to fit him. He'd score more if he got longer than 10 minute cameos, so that he could build experience to better take his opportunities when they come by.  You've seen yourself people claiming he can't make it in the Premier League despite him scoring in the Premier League. That he can't score in the Championship even though he has scored in the championship. It just seems backwards to me. Who on here is over reacting? All I see is fair criticism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I like Mitro, I think he's got a good all-round game, but ultimately if he can't finish better than he's shown so far, he's not going to make it as a striker. Â Fuck me, thought that was in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22147 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I like Mitro, I think he's got a good all-round game, but ultimately if he can't finish better than he's shown so far, he's not going to make it as a striker. Â Fuck me, thought that was in. Have you got a stream? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 @@The Fish, I also think you have a thing where you conflate (lolz) someone overcriticizing someone with everyone doing it. Â And not just in this discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Have you got a stream? No, it was purely down to the crowd sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22147 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 For or against? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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