Happy Face 29 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 http://news.sky.com/story/sky-data-brexit-poll-half-of-britons-happy-about-talks-starting-10816972 Not sure reversing the pubic decision will be a vote winner for a couple of election cycles yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) You just get up and tell them they are wrong and this is how it's gonna be. The General Public have little grasp of reality anyway. Start seeding cartoons with propaganda.....Oh wait... When I was in the Party we used to just go round peoples houses and show them they were talking shit and later move onto dialectical materialism over a cuppa. The Labour Party are just hiding behind this 'will of the people' claptrap. History shows that 'the people' don't have a will unless you spend loads of money and light shows on giving them the idea they have one. /Nazis/USSR/Peoples Republic. It's time to get real. Edited March 31, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 http://news.sky.com/story/sky-data-brexit-poll-half-of-britons-happy-about-talks-starting-10816972 Not sure reversing the pubic decision will be a vote winner for a couple of election cycles yet. That's a stupid question to ask people. I'm happy about the triggering of Article 50 as it was an inevitability and it's about time we got on with it. Doesn't mean that I'm happy to leave the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Numbers hold up for the original decision. Little evidence of Bregret https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/03/29/attitudes-brexit-everything-we-know-so-far/ Even stronger support for article 50 there too. 2/3 want it to go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 It's quite hard to stick to my principles on this and not suggest that this country deserves every motherfucking thing it gets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I find Kahn unsettling. He talks about London as if it's entirely separate from the rest of the country, and he strikes me as entirely self interested. He'd be ideal for the centrists though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Change the fucking record, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) I find Kahn unsettling. He talks about London as if it's entirely separate from the rest of the country Aye, all he ever bangs on about is London, London, London. God knows why. Edited March 31, 2017 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Change the fucking record, man. I actually, on this occasion, meant that earnestly. It does look like a dig though, appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Aye, all he ever bangs on about is London, London, London. God knows why. Hmmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Aye, all he ever bangs on about is London, London, London. God knows why. That's not actually what I said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 kahn should be the next labour party leader. he might make them electable again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I would agree he's probably the last, best hope. Not sure how he'll go down outside of London though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4757 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 kahn should be the next labour party leader. he might make them electable again I wouldn't expect so. My dad has a story of a bloke in burnley who had posters in his window for the tory candidate last council election time, my dad was working for the council at the time so had the joy of visiting plenty of your run of the mill council estates that should be labour voters all day long. The bloke was hanging around while my dad measured up and what have you talking about how important it was to not vote for the labour guy because "we've got to keep these pakis out of getting power". Next time he visits a couple of weeks later the posters have gone, dad asks why and finds out that this salt of the earth chap was horrified to find out the tory candidate was a "bender" so he sacked off the whole thing and didn't bother voting for anyone. I no longer know what point I am making. Possibly that to be elected in this country you don't need to have good policies or care about people in the slightest, you need to have the right face, a quiet wife who will stand around smiling and a name no one can make fun of like "dave" or "tony" and then get the papers on side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I no longer know what point I am making. Possibly that to be elected in this country you don't need to have good policies or care about people in the slightest, you need to have the right face, a quiet wife who will stand around smiling and a name no one can make fun of like "dave" or "tony" and then get the papers on side. Or go on Have I Got News for You a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 i don't think race is that much of an issue anymore. if obama can win two terms in the US i don't see why kahn couldn't do the same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4386 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I wouldn't expect so. My dad has a story of a bloke in burnley who had posters in his window for the tory candidate last council election time, my dad was working for the council at the time so had the joy of visiting plenty of your run of the mill council estates that should be labour voters all day long. The bloke was hanging around while my dad measured up and what have you talking about how important it was to not vote for the labour guy because "we've got to keep these pakis out of getting power". Next time he visits a couple of weeks later the posters have gone, dad asks why and finds out that this salt of the earth chap was horrified to find out the tory candidate was a "bender" so he sacked off the whole thing and didn't bother voting for anyone. I no longer know what point I am making. Possibly that to be elected in this country you don't need to have good policies or care about people in the slightest, you need to have the right face, a quiet wife who will stand around smiling and a name no one can make fun of like "dave" or "tony" and then get the papers on side. I made this point before - and it's unfortunately why shite like not singing the anthem and being unwilling to nuke some imaginary enemy at the drop of the hat actually does cost Corbyn - and that's got nothing to do with the media and everything to do with the imbecility of the British public of every ilk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) i don't think race is that much of an issue anymore. if obama can win two terms in the US i don't see why kahn couldn't do the same here. The split is different. Labour depends far more on a working class base than the Democrats. And the working classes are a bunch of daft racists. Edited March 31, 2017 by adios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15531 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2017/04/6-lessons-labour-its-1997-electoral-landslide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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