essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Wouldn't say a stinker, peno wasn't the worst, standing on the ball happens, back from injury and not a lot of game time this year...going be tough going for any player. shouldn't be conceding three goals against these lads no matter who is up top. (and aye looked like Mitro pulled rank to hit it, that's the only problem when ya do that ya better score even if the keeper throws himself in the right direction) He had a stinker,a right fuckin stinker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4145 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I dunno like, some of the Twitter lads we're FUMING. Personally, I'd like to have gone through but I can cope without it. Get promoted, give Rafa a decent budget & then we can really go for the cups. Never works like that at nufc does it. We always end up ignoring the cups one way or the other. Whether to help stave off relegation or to push for promotion. Year on year thrashings at the hand of lower league opposition. Gotten a bit old now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon 13 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I'm not that fussed that we're out of the cup run but to concede three to Oxford is shameful for a team which is looking to be back in the Premiership next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30371 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 It isn't even close to being the team that'll start the PL season though. They still should've done better though. It was Rafa's hari kari team selection that was the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10779 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Wouldn't say a stinker, peno wasn't the worst, standing on the ball happens, back from injury and not a lot of game time this year...going be tough going for any player. shouldn't be conceding three goals against these lads no matter who is up top. (and aye looked like Mitro pulled rank to hit it, that's the only problem when ya do that ya better score even if the keeper throws himself in the right direction) Read somewhere that Mitrovic was the nominated penalty taker, which would certainly make sense given the line-up. Rafa said that if we progressed it would be by using the squad and the team he picked should have been enough to progress. Mind, on another day we would have been a couple of goals to the good in the 1st half. Oxford deserved their cup victory and Newcastle deserve criticism for falling to a team significantly lower down the pyramid. That said, the tantrums and bed wetting needs to stop. At the beginning of the season we all agreed that Promotion was the be all and end all, we're still on course for that. Despite that, I don't know why Rafa keeps giving Matz Sels a shot; Sels P14 W7, D3, L4 F29 A13 Wins Reading 4-1 Bristol 1-0 Brighton 2-0 Derby 2-0 QPR 6-0 Preston 6-0 Birmingham 3-1 Draws Aston Villa 1-1 Hull 1-1 (lost on penalties) Birmingham 1-1 Losses Fulham 1-0 Huddersfield 2-1 Wolves 2-0 Oxford 3-1 DARLOW P20 W16 D0 L4 F41 A14 Wins Cheltenham 2-0 Wolves 2-0 Norwich 4-3 Rotherham 1-0 Brentford 3-1 Barnsley 2-0 Ipswich 3-0 Preston 2-1 Cardiff 2-1 Leeds 2-0 Birmingham 4-0 Wigan 2-0 Burton 2-1 Forest 3-1 Brentford 2-1 Rotherham 4-0 Losses Blackburn 1-0 Forest 2-1 Sheff Wed 1-0 Blackburn 1-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Aye, playing Sels is completely pointless. The bloke is a shambles in goal, whether it's lack of ability or confidence (I don't think we've seen anything from him to say he is all that talented tbh) we don't need to risk it. We have Elliott who we know is better, and Darlow who has been far better and is of similar age. I get that we paid a fair whack for him but it's time to give up on him as we've seen nothing from him to think he's going to become better than Krul, Elliott or Darlow. I agree we're still perfectly on track for promotion. It's just frustrating to be dumped out a cup by lower league opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10779 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Aye, playing Sels is completely pointless. The bloke is a shambles in goal, whether it's lack of ability or confidence (I don't think we've seen anything from him to say he is all that talented tbh) we don't need to risk it. We have Elliott who we know is better, and Darlow who has been far better and is of similar age. I get that we paid a fair whack for him but it's time to give up on him as we've seen nothing from him to think he's going to become better than Krul, Elliott or Darlow. I agree we're still perfectly on track for promotion. It's just frustrating to be dumped out a cup by lower league opposition. Was surely a gamble that Sels wouldn't be under that much pressure from a lower league side, we played 3 CBs so any pressure should be dealt with. As it is, his confidence must be shot. Although, there are few circumstances that he'd actually play now. Darlow is 1st choice, Elliott must be 2nd choice, so aside from an injury disaster between the sticks, I don't think he'll take the field for us in a competitive game ever again. meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Possibly but I'd have preferred Elliott to get game time. If we were weak in that position I think playing him to try and improve him would be a gamble we'd need to take but as it is we're fine in that spot so there's no point in putting a dodgy keeper in. I always thought he was an odd purchase anyway, we had Krul, Elliott, and Darlow who are all fine so I think the 6.5m could have been better spent, aye he could have proven to be better than all 3 but it wasn't a position we were in pressing need of improving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10779 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Possibly but I'd have preferred Elliott to get game time. If we were weak in that position I think playing him to try and improve him would be a gamble we'd need to take but as it is we're fine in that spot so there's no point in putting a dodgy keeper in. I always thought he was an odd purchase anyway, we had Krul, Elliott, and Darlow who are all fine so I think the 6.5m could have been better spent, aye he could have proven to be better than all 3 but it wasn't a position we were in pressing need of improving. Agree, but, as with Hanley and Murphy, it may have been a safety net should Lascelles/Mbemba or Gayle/Mitrovic fail to perform in this league. Especially as Elliot was injured at the beginning of the season. It's an odd one, no doubt, as I've said before he'd be better off leaving Newcastle United and rebuilding his career elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Agree, but, as with Hanley and Murphy, it may have been a safety net should Lascelles/Mbemba or Gayle/Mitrovic fail to perform in this league. Especially as Elliot was injured at the beginning of the season. It's an odd one, no doubt, as I've said before he'd be better off leaving Newcastle United and rebuilding his career elsewhere. Possibly but it's a fair whack to spend on a safety net for what was probably our strongest in depth position. We spent more on him than we did on improving CM, a position people have been pointing to for years. I hope you're right and the lad is shifted on as anytime he starts we're even shakier at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7009 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Just seen the goals. Fuck me, 3 lumps into the box. Sels looked like he was jumping out of the way of a grenade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 We would have been playing Boro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 We would have been playing Boro. Aye, good luck to Sutton at home against Arsenal in their 5,000 capacity ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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