ewerk 31588 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31588 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 SO CALLED JUDGE https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/827867311054974976 And they've failed to have it overturned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22518 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 So called president Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22518 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Big moment already. Constitutional crisis brewing https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/04/donald-trump-travel-ban-constitutional-crisis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31588 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Observers were stunned by the apparent lack of legal groundwork done by the White House aides – reportedly senior counsel Steve Bannon and policy chief Steven Miller – who wrote Trump’s executive order, thereby producing a lack of clarity which contributed to chaos at airports and rulings against the administration. No surprise there that this order was so shoddily thrown together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Who is Marci Hamilton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22518 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Post truth politics ploughs on unabated https://www.buzzfeed.com/davidmack/trump-posted-a-false-news-report-to-his-facebook-page?utm_term=.snKWDLYQ1#.oprmLK1MG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 http://www.gallup.com/poll/195542/americans-trust-mass-media-sinks-new-low.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 No surprise there that this order was so shoddily thrown together. Who needs experts though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4446 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 I think I said earlier, what's worrying is that he seems to have surrounded himself with inexperienced sycophants - surely the constitution is taught in schools anyway so even basic knowledge should allow anyone to try and tell the idiot how it works let alone the true experts he should have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31588 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 The problem is that much of the president's power isn't explicitly spelt out in the constitution. Presidents have been gradually expanding their role and powers for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4446 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Yes but even my limited knowledge goes as far as knowing branches of government including the judiciary are deliberately separated to provide checks and balances. He might think he can go further because of the republican grip of Congress but judges are generally letter of the law focused. Of course there's the whole supreme court thing but that's at the end of a long process when it comes to challenges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31588 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 I think this will get to the SC pretty soon. Probably before Gorsuch is confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 "What do you think? Our country's so innocent?" Refreshing from a president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31588 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Yeah, good on him defending Putin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22518 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Donald Trump - what a refreshing change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 Nonsense to think 100% of everything trunp says will, by virtue of the fact he is Donald trump, be disagreeable. Nonsense to attribute agreement with 1 thing he says with 100% agreement with all he stands for too. Those 8 words are remarkable from a sitting president, and accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31588 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Yeah but he isn't saying it while holding his hands up. He just doesn't have the sense not to say it. It isn't a massive revelation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31588 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 BTW, no one was making the argument that you were refuting in your first two sentences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 Read to me like DG extrapolated my view of one thing he said to be my view of the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5572 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 The US did also criticise Russia a couple of days back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22518 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Read to me like DG extrapolated my view of one thing he said to be my view of the man. I was just parroting that old woodpecker cider ad. He's definitely a change. Refreshing? Not so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31588 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 (edited) That's exactly what we need. Trump supporters targeting a member of the judiciary. Edited February 6, 2017 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31588 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Sometimes you read things on the internet and think 'that's too stupid to be true', then you remember who the president is and suddenly it's very plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 4069 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Americans are just fucking stupid, a mass shooting occurs and someon considers taking away some guns and they are all over the threat to their stupid constitution. Trump decides he is going to bypass the judiciary and totally fuck over the checks and balances and they think that's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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