Renton 21231 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 BTW, for those of us not that familiar with US democracy, the limited series on Netflix, Whose vote counts, is a good explainer. I would barely qualify the United States as a democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34786 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Makes the UK look like one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42004 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Renton said: 100 million votes cast in advance though. Doesn't that suggest an advantage to Biden? I think I'll be physically sick if I wake up to Trump presidency tomorrow morning. It's not just the US that will be fucked. I’m fully expecting the idiots to win/ start a “legal battle” or go full civil war. I think the only way one/all of the above can be avoided is a Biden landslide, which is unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/trump-lil-pump-michigan-biden-election-b1552489.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21801 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 trump will win by hook or by crook - probably by crook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21231 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I think you're right and the US is fucked. A Trump win, by fair means or more likely foul, will embolden and vindicate our own crooks in number 10. Very worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21801 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 at least we can sit back and watch the second civil war from this side of the pond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 The National guard are out in their military vehicles and all the shops are boarded up, the White House has a new security perimeter. Almost like a dictatorship. If USA wasn’t USA they’d invade USA. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15371 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 A mere £318 million matched on the Betfair market for the election. I wonder where Farage's money is this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21801 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 867 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 5 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: the polls are narrowing - look at the battleground states. we've been down this road before and we know how it ends Hardly, if you compare with the way the 2016 polls tightened sharply in the run-up. That hasn't happened here and Biden is still steadily ahead. Keep the faith, I certainly am. We're on course for a turnout not seen in 100 years. You think those are all Trump voters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5164 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, acrossthepond said: Hardly, if you compare with the way the 2016 polls tightened sharply in the run-up. That hasn't happened here and Biden is still steadily ahead. Keep the faith, I certainly am. We're on course for a turnout not seen in 100 years. You think those are all Trump voters? I agree with you, I don't think Trump is going to win from here but honestly the thought that it could even get remotely close is such a deplorable fucking outcome that I don't think kicking him out is going to end this culture war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21801 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, acrossthepond said: Hardly, if you compare with the way the 2016 polls tightened sharply in the run-up. That hasn't happened here and Biden is still steadily ahead. Keep the faith, I certainly am. We're on course for a turnout not seen in 100 years. You think those are all Trump voters? He’s still way ahead with the popular vote, sure. Some of those crucial swing states are too close for comfort. Then we’re seeing of examples of this sort of thing already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21801 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I dunno, it’s been so long since an election went our way, I’m hard-wired to fear the worst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4365 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I think Biden will win but I'm 100% sure Trump would have won easily without Covid. That does not bode well for the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5164 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: I dunno, it’s been so long since an election went our way, I’m hard-wired to fear the worst It has to end at some point though. I mean frankly, if Biden can't win this then I'm right back on the rad left train because Biden is everything I've been told that "the left" needs to be putting forward. He's a right winger in a left wing suit. He's "electable". He's old and he's white. He's centrist. He's everything I've been told we need, so he better fucking win this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21231 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: He’s still way ahead with the popular vote, sure. Some of those crucial swing states are too close for comfort. Then we’re seeing of examples of this sort of thing already Why would the MAGA idiots stop people voting in NY? Trump did sound broken earlier today Here's hoping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21231 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rayvin said: It has to end at some point though. I mean frankly, if Biden can't win this then I'm right back on the rad left train because Biden is everything I've been told that "the left" needs to be putting forward. He's a right winger in a left wing suit. He's "electable". He's old and he's white. He's centrist. He's everything I've been told we need, so he better fucking win this. The vice president isn't that demographic, she'll have the top job in less than 2 years I reckon (should Biden win). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21801 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Rayvin said: It has to end at some point though. I mean frankly, if Biden can't win this then I'm right back on the rad left train because Biden is everything I've been told that "the left" needs to be putting forward. He's a right winger in a left wing suit. He's "electable". He's old and he's white. He's centrist. He's everything I've been told we need, so he better fucking win this. i would have liked to have seen warren go up against trump but she was probably too female for the yanks. bernie was too scary to win over moderate republicans who are are exhausted by trump. biden was the safe bet, as was hillary last time around, so it could still go tits up. but she was up against trump the insurgent and they all know exactly what to expect after four years of him. but trump's base won't budge. i expect it to be close either way. closer than the national poll suggests. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5164 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: i would have liked to have seen warren go up against trump but she was probably too female for the yanks. bernie was too scary to win over moderate republicans who are are exhausted by trump. biden was the safe bet, as was hillary last time around, so it could still go tits up. but she was up against trump the insurgent and they all know exactly what to expect after four years of him. but trump's base won't budge. i expect it to be close either way. closer than the national poll suggests. I expect Biden to win. But if he doesn't, the centre is more fucking dead to me than it already is He is the walking personification of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30221 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I still reckon Kanye could sneak it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21801 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 29 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I expect Biden to win. But if he doesn't, the centre is more fucking dead to me than it already is He is the walking personification of it. probably the dem's safest bet but not the most inspiring candidate - an old senile granddad who can barely remember his opponent's name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5164 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: probably the dem's safest bet but not the most inspiring candidate - an old senile granddad who can barely remember his opponent's name. It sounds to me like people are voting for "not Trump" more than they're voting for Biden. That would worry me normally but Trump is so repulsive that it might well be enough. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I don’t think it will be but hope I’m wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30221 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 From the exit polls: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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